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To: stevie_d_64
Ranger like our other conventional carriers has seen the expected life. I'll explain as briefly as I can why you can't give a CV away. The conventionals from Saratoga on operated on a 1200 PSI superheated steam produced by 8 Diesel Fuel Marine fueled boilers. {Forestall the first super carrier was a 600 PSI System} At 1200 PSI a steam leak the size of a pencil lead can dismember you and it can't be seen or heard. They've been repaired, re-tubed, relined, and patched up to get the 40-50 year life out of them.

Other ships such as destroyers, Amphibs etc we loan out, sell, giveaway, usually run on diesel engines are easier to repair and much less risk to operate.

The closer a carrier is to it's end life the less money is spend on upkeep. Repairs are deferred and in general the ships main propulsion system and Auxiliary systems are worn out.

73 posted on 10/26/2014 6:50:35 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

From an engineering standpoint you are correct...I did not get my ESWS badge on a CV platform, but got it on a DDG-993 class, which if I recall had some interesting main propulsion and aux plant systems...

Where our country doesn’t need the older conventional powered CV’s anymore, the other countries could, and those engineering upgrades and other system maintenance requirements could be appropriated since they would probably only be dealing with one flat top in their order of battle anyway...

I also see it as an opportunity, or better yet a “transition” ship to a more modern platform anyway, which is good for those countries that do produce them as a potential export...

Then they’d have crews that are trained up and used to working on a challenging ship like this..

Shoot, they could even get a refit to the newer catapult systems we are putting on our newer CVN’s to take care for those steam plants and plumbing that might be at risk for failure...Right??? If I caught your history on that correctly...

Its all about bringing up allies on our operating these carriers who have not had the opportunity to do so like we have...Sure GB, France and some of the others have history, and some of these other Navies have absorbed older platforms...

Sure, some of these Navies will be buying problems, but its like buying a used car...The utility you get out of it, at a reduced cost overall, might lend itself to looking at the future, while getting comfortable with the overall idea...

Then the new car urge kicks in...

That’s all I was alluding to...

BTW, I miss the Connie!!! And the Big “E”...FYI...

The idiotic idea we could scrap these constructions for such a cheap and insulting price for the scrap value quoted, to me, begs another look at encouraging these to be sold off for use (operation) in foreign navies...For as long as they can keep them up...

Again, just my opinion...


77 posted on 10/26/2014 7:16:28 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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