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To: CynicalBear
"So you would be comfortable on stage with a bunch of the audience with hooded clothes and full face covering?"

If I wandered into a bar and discover it to be filled with Leather Jacketed Bikers that look like trouble, I would leave.

If I was about to board a flight, and saw large numbers of "Muslim Garbed" individuals getting on board, I might very well exercise the option to take a later flight.

What I am far more uncomfortable with is a Government that can tell me what to wear, when I can wear it when I am going about my private life. That means not on a job serving the public, just my own free time, out and about.

Would you be comfortable out and about at say, something like a State Fair, when a security guard comes up to you and tells you to remove your Sunglasses and Hat or Scarf, because it interferes with the facial recognition software the crowd is being scanned with? That is one of the arguments being proposed here. If you accept its premise, then you cannot object when the authorities come to dictate your garments under that reasoning.

"They have something to hide" is another argument proposed here.

Did you cheer Apple's recent stance on encrypting phone data? If so, why? OBVIOUSLY only people with "something to hide" want their phone data encrypted.

People applaud laws when they are perceived to "stick it to THEM". What people often fail to think through is how quickly THEM becomes US.
31 posted on 10/22/2014 8:54:28 AM PDT by Rebel_Ace (My wife told me to update my tag, so I did.)
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To: Rebel_Ace
>>If I wandered into a bar and discover it to be filled with Leather Jacketed Bikers that look like trouble, I would leave.<<

And this was a group of performers who "left" because they were "uncomfortable".

>>What I am far more uncomfortable with is a Government that can tell me what to wear,<<

It was the performers who refused to perform.

>>If you accept its premise, then you cannot object when the authorities come to dictate your garments under that reasoning.<<

If I went out in public fully covered to even obscure my sex or what I have concealed beneath my attire I would expect them to "protect and serve".

46 posted on 10/22/2014 9:43:08 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Rebel_Ace
Greetings Rebel_Ace.

I have a lot of sympathy for your position, and actually lean towards it for the most part. Problem is, in many (if not most) states there are already existing laws about going about masked. (obviously not enforced on Halloween for variouis reasons). However, if you were to walk into your local bank wearing a full stormtrooper costume, or even just the helmet,  at a minimum the would probably ask you to leave.

I know that at my local bank, they have a sign on the door that says "no hats or sunglasses", which I pretty much ignore because everyone there knows me.

Would they refuse entry to someone in what normal people consider to be potential terrorist garb that fully obscures their identity? I would hope so. As a private business, I'd hope they'd have that right, though private property rights in such matters has been almost completely destroyed in this country in the name of "fairness".

Personally, I'd prefer such rules to be made and enforced by private business on an individual basis, rather than the heavy hand of the police state.

57 posted on 10/22/2014 11:18:46 AM PDT by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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