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To: Beagle8U
Only 4 states strip felons forever of voting rights.

Actually, only four states strip ALL felons of voting rights forever, but other states strip SOME felons of voting rights forever, and every other state -- except the two that I mentioned -- strips all or most felons of voting rights for a period.

The point is, this is a state by state decision, and if the Supreme Court rules that states don't have the power to sanction felons, then you're seeing a major power grab by the federal government not just on guns but on lots of other things.

Many states have laws preventing people convicted of fraud from bidding on state contracts. Should they be required now to award contracts to fraudsters? C'mon.

38 posted on 10/20/2014 1:36:43 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

I commented to your original post, which was BS.

I posted the facts for your reading pleasure.

You lost the debate.


46 posted on 10/20/2014 1:44:06 PM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Alter Kaker
The point is, this is a state by state decision, and if the Supreme Court rules that states don't have the power to sanction felons, then you're seeing a major power grab by the federal government not just on guns but on lots of other things.

Well, unless SCOTUS limits their decision to saying the Second Amendment bars states from attaching some or all conditions to the exercise of Second Amendment rights . In that case, many would not see it as a power grab by the feds but, instead, as taking tinkering with the Bill of Rights away from the states.

That said, SCOTUS does (rightly) subscribe to the idea that all rights under the Bill of Rights are not inalienable without sanctioning the idea that states can pass whatever they want to limit those rights.

Many states have laws preventing people convicted of fraud from bidding on state contracts. Should they be required now to award contracts to fraudsters? C'mon.

Devil's advocate rebuttal - yeah, but bidding on & receiving contracts is not a constitutional right.

49 posted on 10/20/2014 1:47:09 PM PDT by gdani (Ebola has exposed the U.S. as fearful, easy-to-manipulate weaklings)
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