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To: SampleMan
SampleMan said: "Other punishments exist, all revolving around forfeiture of rights, also for the protection of others. "

The "F" in "BATFE" is only there because of the mistaken notion that one can deprive dangerous criminals of guns.

Without this nonsensical idea, we wouldn't have mandatory serial numbers on guns, FFLs, gun registration, "Not Unsafe" handgun rosters, ten-day waiting periods, DROS transfer fees, and hundreds of pages of other infringements.

The presumption that an otherwise free person no longer has an unalienable right to defend himself, his family, or his community is FALSE. A free man is always justified in defending himself from unjustified force and denying him the tools to do so is an unjustifiable infringement of that right.

The War on Some Drugs and the War on Some Guns will both result in the loss of our liberty. First it was just the felons who were to be deprived of their guns. Then it was some misdemeanants. Now Kalifornia has a law allowing family members to initiate confiscation on just their say-so that a person is incompetent to own guns. You should not wish to associate with those who support these outrages.

126 posted on 10/20/2014 6:13:37 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell
The presumption that an otherwise free person no longer has an unalienable right to defend himself, his family, or his community is FALSE.

They aren't free. They are being punished and are less than totally free. They made a choice and they have lost rights through due process. Don't like criminals being punished? Cry me a river.

135 posted on 10/20/2014 6:50:26 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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