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To: EternalVigilance
However, the chapel is also a for-profit business and city officials said that means the owners must comply with the local nondiscrimination ordinance.

That's their mistake. Reincorporate as a church and avoid the problem.

4 posted on 10/18/2014 4:11:36 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Shouldn’t matter either way.


8 posted on 10/18/2014 4:15:08 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Trust God and do right. Only then can we expect Him to once again come to our aid.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
That's their mistake. Reincorporate as a church and avoid the problem.

Is it a mistake? Do constitutional rights end when one creates a business?

10 posted on 10/18/2014 4:15:36 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Reincorporate as a church?

A church doesn’t need to incorporate. I have started some churches and they don’t need to incorporate.


15 posted on 10/18/2014 4:18:06 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Lurking Libertarian

So Christians have to not own businesses anymore huh? Sorry but this will not end well for the Gaystapo. The First, 8th and 13th are at play and a lot more specific then the 14th. The rights of gays ends at the door of the rights of Christians.

Whats at issue is the FORCED labor and violation of religious laws. Its not like the Gays lack other options.

The city needs to be sued for deprivation of rights under color of law.


25 posted on 10/18/2014 4:29:26 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
That's the feckless, cowardly way out.

Me, I'd ignore all fines, summons, and legal action and continue going about my business. Because the judge in the sky trumps the one wearing a cheap polyester black robe made in Haiti, any day.

41 posted on 10/18/2014 4:49:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Lurking Libertarian

exactly Lurking that was heir mistake. They figured it wouldn’t happen in a conservative state like Idaho. But they are already after the churches. They want to take that tax exempt status away so badly. Maybe that is what the churches need to do— all the social service programs etc that Christian groups run from Catholic Charities on down,(they are the biggest one)and dump it all in the states’ hands. That should send a big F##K YOU to all the socialists who want to control everything anyway. The government knows it would be screwed if the Christians got out of the charity business and just started doing charity on a congregation to congregation basis.


85 posted on 10/19/2014 8:36:25 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (IF YOU TAKE THE STATE'S NICKEL, YOU GET THE STATE'S NOOSE)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; ...
(CWII Spark)

>> However, the chapel is also a for-profit business and city officials said that means the owners must comply with the local nondiscrimination ordinance.
>
> That's their mistake. Reincorporate as a church and avoid the problem.

Not necessary under the Idaho Constitution:

ARTICLE I, SECTION 4. GUARANTY OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
The exercise and enjoyment of religious faith and worship shall forever be guaranteed; and no person shall be denied any civil or political right, privilege, or capacity on account of his religious opinions; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be construed to dispense with oaths or affirmations, or excuse acts of licentiousness or justify polygamous or other pernicious practices, inconsistent with morality or the peace or safety of the state; nor to permit any person, organization, or association to directly or indirectly aid or abet, counsel or advise any person to commit the crime of bigamy or polygamy, or any other crime. No person shall be required to attend or support any ministry or place of worship, religious sect or denomination, or pay tithes against his consent; nor shall any preference be given by law to any religious denomination or mode of worship. Bigamy and polygamy are forever prohibited in the state, and the legislature shall provide by law for the punishment of such crimes.
What we have here, plain and simple, is a government that refuses to be bound; this leads to one place —
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

95 posted on 10/19/2014 4:43:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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