[dhs12345]

> Please provide your stat.

Interesting. I didn't see anything about their sampling, demographics, family income, etc. I didn't have time to read it. Good link, though. Thanks.

“Nationwide” is a broad brush. It certainly isn't that common in my current neighborhood nor was it the case in the 70s when I grew up.

Then again, it is probably pretty common in the poorer sections of the city. Maybe they only interviewed kids from those areas? I'll read it more tonight.

> ROTFL! How many pack-a-day pot smokers do you know?

You obviously missed the point. You DON'T HAVE TO SMOKE MJ AS MUCH to get the same exposure. Actually you only have to smoke it 1/4 the amount — four cigs versus one joint, 8 cigs versus two joints.

> But note the absence of emphysema and lung cancer from this list.

Lung cancer — Wrong.

“There are 33 cancer-causing chemicals contained in marijuana.” See this exactly what I am referring to — people are misleading the public. And especially kids.

> And some truth - and no evidence that either influences kids to smoke pot.

No, except the perception and misleading information that may “encourage” someone to use. “After all, it isn't that bad for you.” “Doesn't cause cancer.” “There are actual health benefits from smoking it.” Kids hear these statements and are too dumb to know for themselves.

[ConservingFreedom]

8 cigs versus two joints.

There are plenty of pack-a-day tobacco smokers - far fewer 4-joint-a-day pot smokers.

But note the absence of emphysema and lung cancer from this list.

Lung cancer — Wrong.

“There are 33 cancer-causing chemicals contained in marijuana.”

And yet YOUR PAGE does NOT say that pot causes lung cancer - because there's no direct evidence for it. In sufficient quantities, almost everything is a "cancer-causing chemical" - because in lab-rat giga-doses it kills off cells so fast that the body goes into hyper-cell-growth mode.

[Svartalfiar]

You obviously missed the point. You DON'T HAVE TO SMOKE MJ AS MUCH to get the same exposure. Actually you only have to smoke it 1/4 the amount — four cigs versus one joint, 8 cigs versus two joints.

Is that the same? For most people I know who smoke, one joint is a decent bit bigger (volume and time to smoke) than a single cigarette. And everyone who makes one makes em slightly differently, bigger/smaller, longer/shorter. It's like comparing cigarettes to cigars.

Maybe try comparing it by weight? That will give you an actual direct comparison, though I don't think I've ever really seen any studies that get that detailed. And yes, the filtered/unfiltered makes a difference, although marijuana is generally a lot more natural than cigarette tobacco, and has less additives, chemicals, etc. Also, how would marijuana compare to pipe/cigar smoking? those are unfiltered, but generally not inhaled.


Defies logic. Please provide your stat. If there are 10 liquor stores within a few miles of my home versus one pot dealer downtown, liquor is going to be more available. That was my experience. The fact that I was underage was a minor inconvenience because legal adults provided what I needed.

You are correct there, but marijuana has the advantage where no one cares about your age. Since it's not legal at all (most places), everyone who sells it won't really care about the age of who buys it. Liquor/beer is easier for the middleman to get, whereas marijuana is easier to get from the middleman. And like one of you said, the either-or here will completely vary from state to state and city to city.