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Time To "Rethink" Tom Frieden As CDC Head
Investors.com ^ | October 14, 2014 | IBD Editorial

Posted on 10/14/2014 4:52:59 PM PDT by jazusamo

Public Health: The man whose one job is to safeguard America's health has failed, saying that we must change our responses to Ebola after a Dallas health care worker becomes infected despite the rules he championed.

After 26-year-old Dallas health care worker Nina Pham became the first person to contract Ebola on U.S. soil, Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), said during a press conference that (we) "have to rethink the way we address Ebola control."

Yes, we do. Pham's infection, just as Thomas E. Duncan's death in Dallas after a multistop trip from Liberia, wasn't supposed to happen with CDC's protocols. Frieden's repeated assurances that everything possible was being done have been demonstrably false.

Blaming Pham, who contracted the disease while caring for Duncan despite taking recommended protections and wearing the proper gear, Frieden said that "at some point there was a breach in protocol, and that breach in protocol resulted in this infection."

He later walked back his remarks. But if the protocols were adequate, why do we need to rethink them?

Pham isn't alone. Maria Teresa Romero Ramos, a Spanish nurse's aide, contracted the disease while caring for an Ebola patient in a Madrid hospital.

She got infected when her gloved hand inadvertently touched her face while removing her protective gear.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdc; ebola; frieden; obama
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To: InterceptPoint

he gets a lot’of power under martial law declared for biohazards.


21 posted on 10/14/2014 5:42:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Slyfox
I read the CDC recommendations -- in the New York Times article -- and I was shocked.

The recommendations were less than precautions that might have been taken 30 years ago when the AIDS epidemic began. At least shoe and hair coverings were usually worn in the 1980s when taking care of patients in the final stage of their illness.

The workers who were cleaning up the Dallas apartments -- with the exception of the two apartment maintenance workers who were power washing the vomit off the sidewalk with absolutely no protection -- the cleanup workers were exceeding the CDC recommendations -- with full hoods, boots and respirators. Which would be the common sense thing to do.

I'm sure that Frieden is a really nice guy and went to all the right schools and knows all the right people, but did he ever bother to read what was on his own department's website?

22 posted on 10/14/2014 5:45:03 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: jazusamo

Frieden is being manipulated by 0bama and his renegade band of treasonous morons. If he wants to regain a modicum of integrity and respect, he should come clean and demand that all flights be stopped.


23 posted on 10/14/2014 5:47:09 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want a Speaker who'll stick that pen and phone where no one but Reggie Love can find it!)
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To: Sooth2222
Frieden said that "at some point there was a breach in protocol, and that breach in protocol resulted in this infection.

Yeah, what if the whole CDC protocol has a hole the size of a semi-truck?

Full hazmat would mean more like ZERO would be infected.

How dare they blame the nurse for any breach in a faulty protocol.

24 posted on 10/14/2014 6:03:45 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Slyfox

Here is the official CDC protocol. Please note NO hazmat!

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/ppe-poster.pdf


25 posted on 10/14/2014 6:07:09 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No Surgeon General needed — we have Dr. Obola who will safeguard our health.

Did he not do that already with ObolaCare?


26 posted on 10/14/2014 6:17:50 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: DoodleDawg
There isn't one. But even if there was what would you expect he/she to do?

Boris D. Lushniak is the Surgeon General. And I would expect, if we're going to have one, that this person be the point person for something like this Ebola break out. Obviously the CDC bureaucrats are not up to it. Again, I am not advocating for having a Surgeon General, but I am asking the question that what is the SG for if not for spear heading something like this???? You got any answers?

27 posted on 10/14/2014 6:34:31 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: jazusamo

He’s taking direction from the White House.

CDC budget was increased. He owes loyalty.

A Puppet, but most succinctly a man who in recent days has proven he is no better than John Wayne Gacy.


28 posted on 10/14/2014 6:43:06 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: Kenny500c

Lara Logan is from South Africa—if it matters. Since I don’t watch CBS news, she is the only one I miss.


29 posted on 10/14/2014 6:49:21 PM PDT by odawg
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To: jazusamo
Friedan reminds me of this guy:

Clue: Deep Throat

30 posted on 10/14/2014 6:51:15 PM PDT by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t know about video. I was just quoting what the article said. If simply touching your bare skin with a contaminated glove infects you, it’s a lot worse than they’re telling us. Touching your bare skin with a glove doesn’t sound like getting body fluid in your eye, does it?


31 posted on 10/14/2014 6:51:42 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Held up in the senate.


32 posted on 10/14/2014 7:02:29 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Rumor has it that he is “leading from behind” (aka hiding in his office under his desk).


33 posted on 10/14/2014 7:07:47 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Put lipstick on a Communist and call it a Progressive, but it's still a Communist with lipstick.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

no,’but they say all is needed for infection is between 1-10 virons, and these things are .3 microns, so it doesn’t surprise’me skin exposure did it.


34 posted on 10/14/2014 7:09:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kenny500c; All
There is a free copy of the book "The Hot Zone" HERE

It is a free downloadable PDF file of the book. Everyone here should read it and pass it on.

If this does not convince you to get some prepper supplies then nothing will.

it forst came out over 20 years ago and I have been listening carefully to any ebola news ever since.

35 posted on 10/14/2014 7:25:08 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

yes, but Lushniak is “acting” SG until that gets resolved.


36 posted on 10/14/2014 7:27:35 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Kenny500c
The lady English reporter Lara Logan, described ebola as “highly contagious.” I have not heard that before, any comments?

It would be considered "highly contagious" in casual speech if you come into contact with infected bodily fluids, either directly or nearby by droplet transmission. But it is not infectious like a true airborne pathogen, floating around in the air just waiting for you (something like weaponized powdered anthrax).

37 posted on 10/14/2014 7:33:37 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: VerySadAmerican
If simply touching your bare skin with a contaminated glove infects you

It requires broken skin or a mucous membrane. Touching around your face will get you pretty close to the latter, and any micro-abrasion can serve as the former (like shaving injuries or under the fingernails for those who get manicures). Ear canals often have micro-abrasions also.

38 posted on 10/14/2014 7:37:29 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Boris D. Lushniak is the Surgeon General.

He's the Deputy Surgeon General, and acting Surgeon General only because Obama's appointee is tied up in the Senate.

Obviously the CDC bureaucrats are not up to it.

And the Public Health Service bureaucrats would be?

39 posted on 10/15/2014 3:46:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Yes, acting - that’s what I SAID.

But look, you’re missing my bigger point - I think trying to be too smart by half frankly.

I don’t have any faith in any government bureaucracy to do anything ever- and I was using the Surgeon General example to ironically point out that we actually DO have two big bureaucracies that are both redundant and ineffective. Having said that, IF A POTENTIAL PANDEMIC ISN’T A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ISSUE - what would be in your mind?


40 posted on 10/15/2014 4:05:21 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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