Everyone else is free to respond to Ebola however they wish. I am taking it very seriously because it's an incredibly dangerous virus.
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
We are screwed for the simple fact that we have an enemy of the US as President the same time this is going on. Thank you Democrats
Ebola can survive outside the body for 6 days which pretty much means we are screwed especially under this POTUS who seems hellbent on getting it into the US.
A majority of respiratory viruses are enveloped (parainfluenza virus, influenza virus, RSV, and coronavirus) and survive on surfaces from hours to days. In contrast, most enteric viruses are nonenveloped and survive on fomites from weeks to months.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1828811/
Norovirus, being non-enveloped, survives better on surfaces. Not only that, but the envelope around the Ebola virus is made of proteins that are very attracted to detergents and bleach, so it is quite easy to kill off that way:
Taken together with empirical epidemiological observations during outbreaks, our results suggest that current recommendations for the decontamination of filoviruses in isolation wards [3] are effective
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full
Essentially the same protein envelope that makes Ebola so dangerous also makes it relatively easy to clean up.
Thank you - a good analysis and comparison... It is useful information that gives a perspective on the spread of the Ebola..
Posted at this thread:
2nd person who got ebola was wearing FULL PROTECTIVE GEAR as recommended by the CDC per presser!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3214194/posts
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What USED TO BE on the Web page of the CDC as of 8/2/14:
“In this guidance healthcare personnel (HCP) refers all persons, paid and unpaid, working in healthcare settings who have the potential for exposure to patients and/or to infectious materials, including body substances, contaminated medical supplies and equipment, contaminated environmental surfaces, or CONTAMINATED AIR. “
https://web.archive.org/web/20140802...endations.html
Also.......
http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/1211...srep00811.html
Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates
A study conducted in 2012 showed that Ebola was able to travel between pigs and monkeys that were in separate cages and were never placed in direct contact.
Remember folks!
The CDC recommends N95 mask for Ebola that stops things 0.3 microns in size.
Ebola Is 0.08 Microns (range of size is from 0.05 to 0.3 microns).
Not only that, but Ebola symptoms and norovirus symptoms are almost indistinguishable for the first few days.
And the problems with things like this is that they grow exponentially. Even if Ebola grows slowly to start with, unfortunately, we ain’t seen nuttin yet. Just wait until flu and norovirus season hits to see what a completely paralyzed nation that battens down the barricades REALLY looks like as millions have symptoms that are much like how Ebola starts off!
The trenches of our medical system are woefully unprepared for something like this. And thank you, President Obola for your “fundamental transformation” when flu season hits!
Oh, and PLEASE let’s keep those West African shuttles flying back and forth, since obviously it would do no good anyway with your open borders policy. Oh, and everyone? Be sure to vote a straight Democrat ticket in November: they really DO care about you folks, ya’ll hear? After all:
“Now, I am not on the ballot this fall,” Obama stressed. “... But make no mistake: My policies are on the ballot — every single one of them.” (Including unrestricted West African air flights.)
Barack Hussein Obama, October 2, 2014, Northwestern University
And NONE of those pertain to Ebola virus.
Put it this way: if Ebola were as contagious as Noro, we'd have lost half the population of Africa by now, not to mention Asia, Europe, the Americas...
I just had a norovirus Thursday and Friday. Thursday night was brutal; I was very sick. And I was thinking then that this was no doubt a stomach flu but man, it hurt! I couldn’t help but think how sorry it would be to get Ebola.
While I wish we could show more compassion for those who are ill, the primary focus of such a deadly disease is to prevent its spread.
This is what all the powers that be should be concentrating on. NOT politics, but limiting and then eradicating the disease.
What the Hell are they waiting for???!!!
(It hearkens back to my old Cold War Bio/Chem warfare training)
The decon exercises I remember required multiple layers of steps, including an intermediate test step, with a non-lethal but pervasive gas element, to test the security of the equipment itself, after initial “showers” of the protective gear, but before removing said gear.
Seconds to suit up properly, potentially hours to properly decontaminate afterwards...
Is the CDC doing that?
Are they skipping basic, best practices when they know in fact they are in a severe BIO hazard deadly situation?
We got Norovirus from a waiter who had just come off a cruise ship. Everyone he waited on got sick. My husband and DIL got dog sick, he stood between them while he took the order. My son and I just got a little sick.
Isn’t norovirus what causes cruise ships to have lots of sick customers?
Funny how the CDC mandates that monkeys coming into the USA have to be quarantined but not people with deadly diseases.
My whole family had a bout with Norovirus last Spring. It is no fun trying to take care of a sick new born, a sick 4 year old, my wife, and myself. Both of our mothers came over to try to help out and both got sick as well.
I had Norovirus about a week after Thanksgiving last year. Geez, that was awful. I missed a week of work and I broke a rib I puked so hard.