Posted on 10/12/2014 2:40:49 AM PDT by Drago
Health care worker in Dallas tests positive for Ebola after a preliminary test, hospital says in a statement.
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These photos are sobering.
The doctor on FOX today (who also thinks we should not ban people visiting from Africa) did suggest it could be the removal of said equipment.
Makes some sense to me. Garbage all over the outside of your “suit”, how do you remove? Put your hands on the outside, get germs, pass to mouth.....
Best scoops? Although a good pioneering study, why on earth would anyone consider it a great revelation to find out that being in the same room with an Ebola-infected organism is a bad thing?
A solution to this would be to wear multiple layers of gloves...perhaps 3 or even four so that once all other protective gear is off you are left with a last pair of gloves to remove, so that bare hands are at no time touching potentially infected PPE. I believe this is how the nurse in Africa who cared for 4 ill family members at home was able to avoid infection.
Yep. I was able to watch the local briefing, as I live about 20 miles away from ground zero. Just warning folks..Dallas government is full of corrupt leftists..so anything they or the feds say is suspect. I got the distinct impression watching the DHD head spinning on WFAA, there are more already showing symptoms and they are waiting on tests. Be prepared. Will probably break later today or tomorrow.
If Louise’s tribe were dead, there would be no power on Earth that would keep Jesse quiet on that. Not even $$$$$$. Wait, where is Jesse? We haven’t heard a peep out of him since the first day.
“I got the distinct impression watching the DHD head spinning on WFAA, there are more already showing symptoms and they are waiting on tests. Be prepared. Will probably break later today or tomorrow.”
The infected person WAS NOT on the 48-person CDC watchlist.
And it is not clear if they are a nurse. The only ID so far has been “Healthcare worker”.
Multiple layers of gloves is a good idea, but you can still contaminate yourself with the last layer of glove removal.
The process needs to be fool proof, so that human error is not a factor.
That is why level 4 labs have showers before removal of the suit. This reduces the human error factor. They even do this in Africa- spray workers with bleach before removal of the suit.
I do not want to work in a job in which the slightest error can cost me my life. I want to have the best protection, even to save me from my own error. Because we are all human.
The Level 4 units are our gift to the extra special people. The FEMA caskets are for us serfs.
That’s beginning to look like the case, isn’t it?
They don’t even care enough about our nurses and doctors to give them the protection being given to healthcare workers in the bush in the 3rd world...
I agree with all of this, except that you will never completely remove human error. Showers for sure would minimize risk further. Spraying with H20 and bleach with a high pressure washer like they do in Africa can be hazardous as well because you are sending contaminated droplets through the air, and this may be how Nancy Writebol became infected.
My guess is that the hospital in Dallas is not equipped with biohazard shower facilities so this is not an option there and it is probably only an option at the 6 specialized units across the U.S.A. You would have to have a special decontamination shower directly adjacent to the isolation room, and hospitals simply haven’t been built this way.
Two more thoughts, PPE should be water proof not merely fluid resistant ( would be more expensive) Also, hospital and CDC should look at differences in protocol between this Dallas hospital and the protocols at NIH, Nebraska etc. where no health care workers have become infected from patients with EVD.
I know. Very troubling. It is a female, because they let that slip.
I’m sure there are large showers in any hospital. Cordon one of them off, ventilate it to the exterior with exhaust being well away from any personnel or bystanders. Filtering this exhaust would be a good idea but would pose a hurdle in implementing something that appears fairly urgent. The exhaust would contain mostly chlorine bleach droplets and fumes, so I’d assume the risk of viral infection from it would be extremely low.
Then, do what they’re doing in the field in Africa, dump a gallon of bleach into a plastic pan, have the suited up person stand it it, then spray them down with a bleach solution using a common hand-pumped low pressure sprayer, the kind you can get in any Lowe’s or Home Depot for spraying herbicide. If one person is suited up, two must be in order to have partners for decontamination of the suits themselves afterward.
It doesn’t have to be all that high tech, it just has to kill the virus and avoid contact with exposed skin in the process. It’s more a process of very high awareness and ultra-cautious procedure that can be accomplished with fairly mundane materials, as we’ve seen in a few well-publicized instances.
True. Dr. Brantley tested negative the first time. He was positive on the second test, a couple of days later.
Reportedly, a faster test, which can be carried out on the spot in a few minutes, is being held up by the government.
The showers do not even have to be in the hospital. Cordon off a stairway, the workers walk down to the stairs to an outside tent to decontaminate.
I was thinking more along the lines of containing it within an isolated treatment ward to minimize potentially tracking it around, in case there’s some chance of transmission.
The problem with using hospital showers that are distant from the isolatin unit is that you would have to trudge through the hospital elevators and hallways wearing contaminated PPE
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