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To: Dutchboy88
However, I would make it clear here, apparently I do not hold a Reformed position on this matter. My (r)eformed position is that there is no such thing as "free will". I cannot find it in the Scriptures, but rather find the exact opposite. Proverbs 21:1 has Solomon saying that God controls his heart like a little "channel of water", turning it wherever He wishes. Dozens of other passages have God "putting" this or that into the heart of men/women to do certain things. Even the roll of a die is controlled by God, so evidently "randomness" is an illusion.

Even if you do take this position, the net result is the same in that the ongoing slaughter of innocent babies continues with the foreknowledge of God.

I certainly agree with you that Satan was used to energize the reprehensible abortionists who murder babies in (and now out) of the womb. They will suffer greatly for this, unless God grants them repentance (II Tim 2:24ff) and causes them to escape the "...snare of the devil..." But, even David the rapist and murderer was among God's elect, so I withhold judgment as to whether they are salvageable.

Certainly some of the abortionists will repent and some have already, but I also believe that a great many of them carry out their carnage with the full understanding that they are doing it for Satan.

23 posted on 10/09/2014 10:18:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"Certainly some of the abortionists will repent and some have already, but I also believe that a great many of them carry out their carnage with the full understanding that they are doing it for Satan."

Yes, I agree. And, the effort to stop abortionists is not in any way "fighting against God" (as I am often accused of saying) even though He is still in control. He has called us to speak against evil, promote the good. For this, I am grateful to Catholics who speak/act against the travesty of infanticide. Hopefully, the next President has a more biblically based world view than the man in the WH does now. From his promotion of homosexuality, his disdain for one man/one woman marriage, his respect for Islam, his promotion of all things unseemly, even the promotion of racism, one wonders how he could possibly claim to be a Christian.

24 posted on 10/09/2014 10:25:55 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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