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To: odds

Something proven beyond reasonable doubt is considered a fact. Russia as a nation never had any friends: either slaves or enemies. The national character is just a summary of individual characters of it’s members. Therefore, hate is a prevalent characteristic of typical Russian. I can illustrate this by quoting their common-use terminology towards non-Russians, suppressing my gag reflex, but it’s just superficial - HATE runs in their veins.


25 posted on 10/08/2014 6:33:06 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Samogon

Interesting. Don’t havw time right now but will reply a bit later.


33 posted on 10/08/2014 12:24:46 PM PDT by odds
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To: Samogon; wetphoenix
Fact is a few European nations, including those who were colonial powers at one time or another, have very much an entrenched national ‘hatred’ of anything, or at least most things, foreign. They also feel infinitely superior to others.

It’s a combination of nationalism, political, social, cultural and historical factors. Various ‘targeted’ anti-hate, anti-racism, anti-discrimination laws, largely, have not changed the national psyche.

By the way, I’ve lived in a few Western European countries for extended periods, and speak related languages (terminology & nuances included); therefore, have firsthand experience and observations too. Not ‘hate’ directed at me personally, but minority ethnic and religious groups (even those born there and/or 2nd generation), as well as other Europeans, particularly Eastern Europeans; it is still very prevalent.

Wetphoenix may correct me; my understanding is the rise of radical nationalism in today’s Russia is a reaction, by some, to criminal activity by some ethnic groups from Central Asia and the Southern Caucasus, and illegal immigration. The other contributing factor is economics, for example during the GFC.

I wouldn’t say “hate” is unique to Russia or the Russians (“runs in their veins”). The Russians are still learning to be more affable, politically correct in their expression and actions, relative to Western Europeans and Americans and as superficially. Actually, Russia in surveys (global and Europe only) I’ve seen does not rank in the top 5 for being the most racist or hate-driven.

As a side note, if we’re going to talk about slavery and enemies, the U.S. being a nation of immigrants, and in its very short history of just over 200 years, has not been immune to mentioned events and sentiments. Blacks, Hispanics, U.S. citizens of Japanese ancestry during WWII, KKK, now the Muslim U.S. citizens; racial tensions alone are still very much alive. Although, the U.S. overall is a more tolerant society.

34 posted on 10/08/2014 5:08:57 PM PDT by odds
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To: Samogon; odds

~Something proven beyond reasonable doubt is considered a fact. Russia as a nation never had any friends: either slaves or enemies. The national character is just a summary of individual characters of it’s members. Therefore, hate is a prevalent characteristic of typical Russian. I can illustrate this by quoting their common-use terminology towards non-Russians, suppressing my gag reflex, but it’s just superficial - HATE runs in their veins.~

Any language has ethnic slurs. The fact that you have fond analogues in Russian is not an evidance of any unique out of limit Russian racism.

I think right opposite is true.


35 posted on 10/08/2014 9:08:17 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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