Posted on 10/07/2014 8:42:04 PM PDT by TigerTown
Lol, Obama is the double agent, not Snowden.
“Idiotic article
Read my post and see if you can still say that again.”
Read it. Still lousy. Your post has nothing about Snowden.
I am not a student of Snowden, but I have yet to see anything he has released that fall into one of the following categories:
1. expose NSA illegal behavior (make him a hero whistle blower)
2. expose NSA questionably legal behavior ( makes him a risk taking idealist)
3. expose NSA immoral behavior ( makes him a risk taking idealist)
If you have something that doesn’t fit into these categories please enlighten us.
ISOM (Islamic State Of Mind) supersedes all countries and individuals including this upstart republic and reformulated RUS. The moon never sets on Islam’s empire.
/brain damage eclipse
And it was the Russians who moved the WMDs into Syria...
I don’t doubt that Putin would play both sides against the middle. However, long term, I think that he realizes that Russia’s interests align more with us than with radical Islam. He knows that if radical Islam isn’t controlled, Russia will be torn apart by its Islamic minorities. This is a far more immediate concern for him than engaging the U.S. in a race for geopolitical influence.
~However, long term, I think that he realizes that Russias interests align more with us than with radical Islam.~
Look back to 2001-2004. It has been played already.
Complete with a schmiss, how awesome is that.
How about putting blame on the stupid policies of both GWB and Obama, which is idiotic regime change. That's what's caused voids, filled by militants originally armed, trained, and financed by the US.
No you Russkies are the load of B C.
Snowden is just an idiot and likely a Russkie spy. I was more concerned about Russian ties with Islamic terrorism.
This just seems very stupid to say. Islamic terrorism is a creation of the KGB. Very likely Russia is still in control of world-wide Islamic and Communist terrorism. But Putin realizes that his interest align with us and against the Islamic terrorism he controls?
~Islamic terrorism is a creation of the KGB.~
You are so much ignorant to say the least. Play back 150 and you would see the same as nowadays even in more extreme forms. Russia was at war with Muslims over Christian persecution in Middle East and Balkans and the West has military intervened on part of Muslims.
As for a modern Islamic terrorism it is purely a British invention. An idea was to influence radical group to counter arriving Jewish immigrants arriving to Palestine since earlier 1940s who were seen as a threat to a British Empire there. When in late 1940s Israel has emerged effectively finishing British dominance in the region, Islamists become their tool to push around it for a Brits, as well as to counter emerging American and Soviet influence as their empire were folding.
The fact that both Americans and Soviets fond ways to influence some of said groups after a few decades doesn’t mean they are responsible. When there are some powerful and dangerous groups it is a job of intelligence to gain influence with them.
And if we are talking about direct Russian ideological influence in the Middle East let’s say Baathism. It is exactly opposite to radical Islamism.
So you're saying if the KGB did not create the PLO, and all these other terrorist and "liberation" movements across the world, or send Zawahiri to Al-Qaeda, they would have happened without the help of your masters?
Russia was at war with Muslims over Christian persecution in Middle East
Russia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer). According to your Communist and Fascist "Christians," Stalin was a great guy.
As for a modern Islamic terrorism it is purely a British invention.
So you're saying that Arafat was actually working for the British? Hamas and Hizbollah are not armed with Russian weapons, or receiving money and funds from Russian allies like Syria and Iran? Modern Islamic terrorism, with its hijackings, car bombs, and terrorist actions, were not trained and instructed by the KGB, even though their Communist counterparts were doing the same thing? Does being Muslim mean that they are automatically used to Russian methods?
When there are some powerful and dangerous groups it is a job of intelligence to gain influence with them.
Zawahiri was the number 2 in Al-Qaeda. Now he is the number one. By influence you mean "control".
LOL, you’re right. Snowden is not responsible for ISIS. ISIS is due to U.S. allies (for oil and money) Saudis, Qatar and other Gulf States efforts, funding and spreading radical Islam. Even a British General said so recently. Carter facilitated the Khomeinist Islamic regime in Iran back in late 1970s. Not a single U.S. admin has taken any tangible action to remove them since. And, in more recent times, we see another more far reaching Islamic menace not being stopped by the U.S. - the M.E. and N. Africa are playgrounds for the U.S. admins to fuel Islamic factional wars and then pretend to want to stop them by bombing countries in mentioned regions, allowing genocide, killing civilians, and installing more Islamic government.
~So you’re saying that Arafat was actually working for the British? ~
Go back to my post and read it once again. I haven’t mentioned Arafat and PLO at all. And of course, any informed person here realizes that Islamism haven’t started with Arafat and it is not near limited to PLO.
I also find your idea of Russia ‘controls’ terrorists funny. If you really think one may control these people you would make a perfect cat herder.
But it is typical blunder of British foreign policy, inherited by the US.
It is not if the US haven’t stepped into this crap earlier but you guys still refuse to learn upon past experience and also assuming that other powers, including Russia, acting based on this blunder too.
Your politicians all thought they can make Frankenstein which would for some reason obey them, it never works out, but you are keep trying, using the very same fabric but even less competent labor aka modern affirmative action government employees.
As for some Russian influence with the Islamists do you really think it is not a fair fight when one wrestles a gun pointed at him from another and then shots the perp in a leg? I think it is quite a hypocrisy to cry ‘armed assault’ on part of a ‘victim’.
I think Russian position towards Islamism isbto view it as an evil enemy. But it is realistically recognized as a force to recon with and probably use as one of sides against the middle.
Once again, it is the West, not Russia, which is routinely places all bets on radical Islamists.
The power of Russian design and the primary Russian allies in the region are Baathists who are exact antipodes to radical Islam.
~Russia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer). ussia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer).~
Despite the fact that you have brought too much russophobia trumping any common sense I would probably agree that the ROC is not the best friend of freedom.
I don’t go to their churches and don’t like their preaching because they are teaching to obey the elites and aren’t encouraging hard work, achievement and so on.
I wouldn’t link it to communists or security apparatus.
It might be primarily a feudal thing back to centuries ago since they were licking arse for the Tsars, nobility and influential merchants for dough.
It doesn’t mean all the Russians share the ROC view on Christianity and apprise their unholy union with government and corporations, including people identifying themselves as Orthodox.
Both of which are creations of the KGB. If you are going to claim that the British are actually behind world wide Islamic terrorism and not the intelligence service of your country, you'll have to find a way to pin all these terrorists on them.
I also find your idea of Russia controls terrorists funny.
Who cares what you find funny? Your a pathological liar from Russia who does everything he can to prop up his country on this forum. Case in point:
including Russia, acting based on this blunder too.
What makes you think I am accusing Russia of blundering? I am an anti-Communist. I recognize Russia as the primary enemy of the United States, and I recognize that Russia uses terrorism and mass murder in order to fulfill its goals. That was true of the USSR, and that is true still today.
I think Russian position towards Islamism isbto view it as an evil enemy.
Russia's position to Islam is exactly what its security services want it to be, as told by your own people going back 50 years. Today, your country aids and abets every criminal country on the planet, and is even building its own Islamic caliphate in Chechnya under Kadyrov, who, on top of keeping a sex dungeon, forces Islamic dress codes on little girls. Drop dead Russkie! You're just a dumb vatnik who gets paid in vodka for every lie he posts on FR.
I forgot to reply to this one. Of course you wouldn't. You are a skilled liar who mixes misinformation in everything you write. The ROC's patriarch is a "former" member of the KGB, and your churches are filled with Communists and Nazis who praise Stalin, as you yourself confess, and which even your own resident Nazis assert:
In the first stages of Zyuganovs creation of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (not without some participation on my part, as well as Prokhanov
), efforts were made to interpret and conceptually appraise the presence of the national component in the Soviet worldview (National Bolshevism), but this initiative was abandoned by the leadership of the [Communist Party], which had occupied itself with some other matters
. However, on the level of rhetoric and first reactions, Russian Communists in all senses present themselves as confirmed national conservatives sometimes even as Orthodox Monarchists. - Alexander Dugin, The Fourth Political Theory
You don’t have understanding on what communism and leftism in general is.
That is why you are posting bullcrap supplied to you by ‘Russian experts’ and self-proclaimed ‘kremlinologists’ who don’t have a clue as well but have their agenda.
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