Posted on 10/06/2014 1:35:49 AM PDT by markomalley
Over a decade ago, the U.S. conquered Iraq; its military and intelligence were on the ground for years with autonomy. In other words, U.S. influence and authority was more pronounced in Iraq than probably any other Muslim country in the world.
And yet it is in this one Muslim nation, where the U.S. had most authority, where U.S. blood and treasure were spent, that the absolute worst Islamic terrorist groupthe Islamic Statewas born.
Coincidence?
Or is this too related to the great Arab Spring failures of the Obama administration?
Consider: Obama was repeatedly warned that withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq would lead to something exactly like the Islamic Statewith all the atrocities that have become synonymous with that name.
Indeed, arguing against early troop withdrawal, Obamas predecessor, George W. Bush, once made the following now prophetic remarks:
To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region and for the United States.
It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to Al Qaeda.
It would mean that wed be risking mass killings on a horrific scale.
It would mean we allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan.
It would mean wed be increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.
The point here is not to side with Bushthe idea of transporting democracy to an Islamic country was ill-conceived from the startbut rather to demonstrate that Obama was thoroughly warned what troop withdrawal would lead to: the Islamic State. The same U.S. military and intelligence sources that allowed Bush to make that prescient statement also shared their assessments with Obama.
Yet Obama withdrew anyway. In December 2011, Obama declared the Iraq war a success and pulled out American troops. And, to the eyes of most Americans, things were relatively quietuntil, of course, the world heard that a head-chopping, infidel-crucifying, mass-murdering caliphate had suddenly arisen.
Was Iraq also part of the euphoria of the Obama-endorsed Arab Spring?
Recall that final troop withdrawal from Iraq occurred at the height of the Arab Spring when the Obama administration was simultaneously betraying key U.S. allies in the Islamic world such as Egypts Hosni Mubarak.
If the U.S. was not going to stand by its former secular strongmen, but instead was willing to hold hands with their traditional enemies, the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists, why should it have supported Iraqs Nouri Maliki?
After all, the narrative adopted by the Obama administration was that the Arab people were breaking the bonds of authoritarianism, and the U.S. administration was supporting their efforts, most notably by turning its back on longtime allies in the name of democracy.
And surely Maliki was seen as the greatest of all U.S. puppets, a divisive figure that stood in the way of the Sunni Spring?
Despite the narrative that Maliki was for complete troop withdrawal, its well-established that behind closed doors, he [Maliki] was interested in a substantial U.S. presence. Indeed, the New York Times reported that Joe Biden had said that Maliki wants us to stick around because he does not see a future in Iraq otherwise.
More specifically, in a 2012 debate with Mitt Romney, Obama decried the presence of any American forces in Iraq (video here), adding that
Youve got to be clear, both to our allies and our enemies, about where you stand and what you mean. Now, you [Romney] just gave a speech a few weeks ago in which you said we should still have troops in Iraq. That is not a recipe for making sure that we are taking advantage of the opportunities and meeting the challenges of the Middle East.
What do Obamas assertions mean?
Was Obama being clear, both to our alliesthe Sunni Islamists whom he allied with during the Arab Springand our enemiesthe Arab autocrats who stood in their way?
Was Obama showing both groups where you [U.S. president] stand and what you mean?
Was troop withdrawal Obamas way of taking advantage of the opportunitiesriding the Arab Spring waveand meeting the challenges of the Middle Eastwinning Muslim hearts and minds by abandoning autocrats?
Here, then, is another perspective on the rise of the Sunni Islamic State in Iraqone closely connected to the many other Arab Spring failures of the Obama administration.
The biggest strategic screw up in modern history? Peace for our time?
He has some simplistic "community organizer" belief that Islam is a true religion (like socialism) and worth his soul to conform to - as witnessed bowing to the Saudi King. His beliefs tell him that Islam is not the problem, but just the few "work place" radicals.
Yes, I believe he is that naive about the cult of Islam. No, he's not stupid, but did grow up in an Islam culture so his theology is deep rooted. Plus he is a racist, which adds to his anti-American power policies.
It's called indoctrination. The same as happens to our children every day in the liberal/socialist colleges.
I have to agree with you for the most part. For the most part Indonesians do not hold to Sharia as it’s most desired form of law and also, once again for the most part, are very decent human beings. I have worked with them for 25 years and found them to be very genuine. That being said they do have their own radicals and I wonder where their allegiances will fall when the shiite really hits the fan in the ME. So Obama comes from a place where Islam is and has been for most of it’s time there a peaceful religion (There are some areas such as Aceh where this is not always true!). He is blinded by his naivety and his hate and he still thinks he can arm supposed “moderates” and bring about a resolution that will suit him in Syria so he also fails to learn from his mistakes.
Fair enough since you've lived there. However, when I see the President of the United States of America bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia, it sickens me. NO USA should ever bow to anyone. Plus, there are many quotes from him about his support of Islam. Sorry, I don't trust ANY Muslim.
BTW, I worked with many extremely hard-working productive Filipinos in the Navy, but now they have their own brand of radical Islamists in the islands. It's a small minority but growing. I just don't get what the appeal is and why it's growing so quickly around the world.
Like I say - I do not disagree with you and in the end I think their religion will draw them together - in the long run I am concerned that they all will go towards the true Islam and that is why even though I have a great care for some of these people the religion is a lie and trust is not something I would advocate despite a long term working relationship and even friendship with some.
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