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To: Beagle8U

How does continuing to fight a lost battle keep you from suffering continuing losses?

Sadly, a great many American conservatives opposed the civil rights revolution of the 50s/60s. Either because they believe, inaccurately, that racial equality was not a simple extrapolation of the American system. Or, more accurately and understandably, that it was a lesser issue being exploited by Communism, with which America was engaged in a death struggle.

Very, very few conservatives continue to hold either of these views. The battle against civil rights was lost, and deservedly so.

The battle against “gay marriage” has also been lost. IMO, intelligent conservatives should recognize this fact and concentrate on the still-winnable issues of protecting the right of individuals and groups to continue to oppose homosexuality.


8 posted on 10/04/2014 6:50:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Very, very few conservatives continue to hold either of these views. The battle against civil rights was lost, and deservedly so.

The battle against “gay marriage” has also been lost. IMO, intelligent conservatives should recognize this fact and concentrate on the still-winnable issues of protecting the right of individuals and groups to continue to oppose homosexuality.”

Do you understand that when equate queer marriage to civil rights you have lost any ability to ever again argue against the queer agenda, and every perversion that goes along with it.

Fighting against the queer agenda isn’t racist, that is nonsense and a coward’s argument to end debate.


11 posted on 10/04/2014 7:00:27 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“The Supreme Court may soon say whether it will take up one or more same-sex marriage cases in its term that begins Monday. Were the justices to rule that gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marry in all 50 states, some activists and political analysts believe it would be a relief for the GOP’s 2016 presidential hopefuls.

“Then they wouldn’t have to talk about it,” said Evan Wolfson, who heads the advocacy group Freedom to Marry. “They’d really like the Supreme Court to finish the job and be able to move on.”

I think this is probably true. If a verdict comes down like that, which wouldn’t shock anyone I can imagine the sighs of relief from all the potential GOP campaign managers.

Freegards


17 posted on 10/04/2014 7:13:24 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Sherman Logan

More democrats than republicans were against the civil rights legislation. Unfortunately, the legislation went too far, ordering private businesses under the threat of the law to accommodate minorities. That set the precedent for gay couples to insist the government can force bakers to bake for gay weddings, and force businesses to allow contraceptives.

Keep at an individual rights plank. Don’t ban their silliness, but fight to allow individuals to be allowed to recognize or not recognize such marriages as they see fit.


18 posted on 10/04/2014 7:18:37 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: Sherman Logan

So you support Obama’s efforts to have created gay marriage for America.

Well he just gave it to you at the federal level and the military recently.

Here you are telling us that you don’t want opposition to those politics.


30 posted on 10/04/2014 7:52:04 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Sherman Logan

“The battle against “gay marriage” has also been lost. IMO, intelligent conservatives should recognize this fact and concentrate on the still-winnable issues of protecting the right of individuals and groups to continue to oppose homosexuality”

So, give up your values to protect your values?

You always were an idiot.


39 posted on 10/04/2014 8:57:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree, the gay marriage issue has been lost. Fight winnable issues and focus on strengthen and promoting heterosexual marriages.


41 posted on 10/04/2014 9:01:16 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Sherman Logan
The battle against “gay marriage” has also been lost. IMO, intelligent conservatives should recognize this fact and concentrate on the still-winnable issues of protecting the right of individuals and groups to continue to oppose homosexuality.

Excellent reason to abandon voting altogether.

54 posted on 10/04/2014 10:29:02 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Sadly, a great many American conservatives opposed the civil rights revolution of the 50s/60s.”

For many, it came down to not wanting to lose “freedom of association”. The CRA stripped that away from America, and it was wrong because of it.


61 posted on 10/04/2014 10:39:36 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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