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Rand Paul: Imagine ship full of U.S. soldiers with Ebola
WND ^ | 2 Oct 14 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/03/2014 11:41:10 AM PDT by xzins

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., a licensed physician and a possible presidential candidate in 2016, is warning that handling Ebola in a politically correct manner will rebound.

In an interview with radio talk show host Laura Ingraham, he said decisions such as keeping travel open from Africa and sending soldiers to fight Ebola “have been dominated by political correctness.”

“Because of political correctness, we’re not making sound, rational, scientific decisions on this,” he said.

Joinging the program by telephone from the campaign trail for Republicans, he started with a quip.

“I can’t believe that you don’t think it’s enough of a plan to prevent worldwide pandemic to cough into your elbow,” he told Ingraham. “Surely that should stop a worldwide pandemic.”

He noted the diseased, diagnosed this week for the first time in the U.S., remains out of control in West Africa after killing more than 3,300.

He pointed out the head of the Centers for Disease Control just a month ago said there was no need to limit travel from Africa to New York, saying, “This will never come to the U.S.,” and, “We know what we are doing. Trust us.”

“I think … we should not underestimate the transmissibility of this,” Paul said. “Think about the people who are getting this … the doctors and nurses who are gloved, gowned and masked.”

He said there are “people getting it who simply helped someone get in and out of a taxicab.”

“So it’s a big mistake to underestimate this,” he said.

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To: Vendome

That’s one of a common type of bogus article. Sure, Ebola is currently very rare in the U.S.

But it gets here from people coming from a tiny corner of the globe. There’s no reason not to do what you can to save the lives of those who will be lost to the effects of those who will do whatever they can to get here for care.

And, again, Ebola is not airborne in the sense that a flu is, but it still doesn’t require direct physical contact.


61 posted on 10/03/2014 2:11:44 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Ebola is only “airborne” for a yard or two—enough to do plenty of damage.

Really???

Who is telling you that?

How far do you think a sneeze will distribute aerosoled liquid?

Furthermore, there has already been a study completed concerning Ebola where they infected a bunch of pigs in cages and put monkeys in another set of cages in the same room. Monkeys got sick with Ebola.
62 posted on 10/03/2014 2:12:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Vendome
Ebola is exactly like MRSA and can only be spread by contact with an infected persons bodily fluids.

Bodily fluids are transmitted by sneezing as well.
63 posted on 10/03/2014 2:14:10 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Vendome; PastorBooks
And so can Staph and MRSA.

Neither Staph and MRSA are as deadly or virulent as Ebola.

Not even close.
64 posted on 10/03/2014 2:17:15 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 9YearLurker

Did you not read my personal experience?

Ebola and MRSA are spread exactly the same way and I spent 7 days a week, 24 hours a day in close contact with my friend, helping her dress, safely transition from one position to another or from sitting to using a walker and the best part:

Preventing her from falling, which required my male strength to catch her and hold her.

No, she wasn’t heavy.


65 posted on 10/03/2014 2:17:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Oh, and it looks like the moderators thought better than to leave your post in “breaking”.


66 posted on 10/03/2014 2:17:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Vendome

MRSA back at your time of exposure was only striking those with compromised immune systems. It has become less discriminating in recent years, but it is not as lethal as Ebola.


67 posted on 10/03/2014 2:21:46 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SoConPubbie

OH!??

Really?

Well, this year Ebola killed about 2,000 people, laboraty confirmed, world wide.

15,000 people will die, right here in the USA, from MRSA, and how many world wide, this year?


68 posted on 10/03/2014 2:23:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 9YearLurker

Only those with compromised Immune structure?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, explain Stella Beer, who was never sick a day in her life.

Quite and very literally. Never had a cold, a fever, nothing.

She then had the temerity to live 5 more years after beating MRSA.

Believe me. She was not compromised health.

What actually happened is when she shattered her hip, they used a bunch of pins to put it all back together.

One of the pins was compromised and caused MRSA to attach to her bone.

The company manufacturing the pins actually had a recall on their product and a class action ensued, which Stella declined for reasons I won’t go into and some Freepers know why.

She beat this thing and it damned near killed her but, we traveled all over the place even with the pic lines.


69 posted on 10/03/2014 2:32:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 9YearLurker

That’s fine.

Can’t do anything about Mods.


70 posted on 10/03/2014 2:37:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

I’ll be back in a few minutes guys.

Gotta run and take of something...


71 posted on 10/03/2014 2:39:47 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Nice anecdote, I’m glad she pulled through.

Here’s a broader perspective: http://bacteria.emedtv.com/mrsa/is-mrsa-contagious.html


72 posted on 10/03/2014 2:40:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ansel12

I guess you and I and xzins didn’t catch it, eh?


73 posted on 10/03/2014 2:59:59 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: Vendome
Well, this year Ebola killed about 2,000 people, laboraty confirmed, world wide.

15,000 people will die, right here in the USA, from MRSA, and how many world wide, this year?


Nope.

Ebola death toll rises to 3,439: WHO

Now, if it really get's loose in the U.S.A., and any other continent, what do you think the final tally will be, annually?

Ebola has a mortality rate of anywhere from 40% to 80%, the mortality rate for MSR is closer to 30% (31.5%).

Ebola is passed by contact with bodily fluids and there are some studies that prove that it can go airborne, at least, inter-species.

Many of the cases of MRSA are a result of surgery or some other type of hospital stay (70%+ in total).

One can turn into a pandemic, the other cannot.

Your analogy between the two is flawed.
74 posted on 10/03/2014 3:48:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 9YearLurker

However, in the mid- to late-1990s, MRSA infections started appearing in otherwise healthy people, who had not been recently hospitalized or had a medical procedure.

Many people wonder if MRSA is contagious. The answer is, yes, MRSA can be spread between individuals. This transmission normally occurs through direct skin-to-skin contact or contact with shared items or surfaces that have come into contact with someone else’s infection (such as towels or used bandages).

All of which I was in contact with, erhhh my gloved hands were...

Had to change her Pic line I don’t know how many times.


75 posted on 10/03/2014 3:51:00 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SoConPubbie

No.

Neither can become a pandemic and certainly not an epidemic.

There isn’t a casual way of transmitting the disease like there is for Flu.

It’s transmission is very specific like MRSA and AIDS.

It isn’t even a debate and CDC was on earlier saying the exact same thing but, everyone wants to argue.

As for the mortality rate of 40%-80% that’s quite the spread and I have a guess as to why that swing is so wide.

A variance of more than 5% is not a trustworthy number.

I’ll get back to you on my hypothesis...


76 posted on 10/03/2014 3:55:49 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SoConPubbie

All right.

WHO says the range is from 25-90% and the reason is several factors and being from Paleo world makes it particularly difficult to deal with.

Of the four who were transported to the USA for treatment, 100% survived and it’s unclear as to why but, they are healthy now.


77 posted on 10/03/2014 3:59:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Oh, btw, that was very nice of you to do.


78 posted on 10/03/2014 4:06:17 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

79 posted on 10/03/2014 6:15:04 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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