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Texas Ebola Patient's Possible Contacts Now Reach 100
ABC ^ | 10/02/14

Posted on 10/02/2014 8:16:57 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Black Agnes

We have an endemic Prion Disease in deer in at least Wisconsin .. and probably Michigan and Minnesota ... Prion disease - Mad Cow Disease, Kuru in Cannibals, Scrapie in Sheep, spontaneous Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans ... Spongiform Encephalitis are the same disease... 100% fatal. In some ways more scary than Ebola - takes up to 10 years to show up, and is caused by a protein particle. It is the only transmissible disease caused by non DNA - non RNA entity. A prion is a protein particle like many others but can and does fold itself wrong and become disease causing.. AND wild as it seems - such a non living rogue prion can and does ‘train’ normal prions to fold incorrectly as it does... resulting in a Swiss Cheese brain.. Off the chart strange... A few years back Wisconsin sponsored a kill off of no limit ... but the meat had to be destroyed as one can conceivably get Spongiform Encephalitis. Mad Cow Disease jumped species it is believed from Sheep Scarpie when English farmers feed freeze dried sheep carcass to their cows pulverized and mixed in with grain feed for added protein... then the prion jumped species from cows to humans when people ate the meat especially bone cuts and marrow. Cannibals get Kuru from eating the brains of their dead relatives. Not sure how deer get the bad prion or transmit it... maybe via a deer tick ...


161 posted on 10/03/2014 1:15:20 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Alter Kaker

Wow! That is hardly the point ... it is the realistic potential of what the mortality rate could be ... as you well know...


162 posted on 10/03/2014 1:20:24 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: PA Engineer

I checked - the temps in Dallas over the last week was around 31C - 87/88F high and 20C - 68 low - give or take...

I looked at a photo today of man using a pressure washer in front of the Ebola man’s apartment wearing nothing but a shirt and jeans - no face mask, no gloves, no protection of any kind... Those machines create a high force aerosol. If this guy gets away with not getting Ebola - it will be a miracle IMO... collective ignorance


163 posted on 10/03/2014 2:57:55 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: stevie_d_64

Some good ideas there... too bad not a single thing you wrote in suggestion was utilized in the Dallas Ebola episode... it was worse than amateurish... I am talking about the hospital and the local health authorities...

Misdiagnosis, wrong type medication, every thing contaminated and left in a contaminated state, family not put in a containment facility - told to stay home - totally foolish, No evidence of a HAZMAT procedure used in cleanup - the opposite was done - a man with no protection and a pressure washer, ambulance not cleaned used for two days.. and a whole lot more of stupidness.


164 posted on 10/03/2014 3:08:14 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: ICCtheWay
Ebola is at least 50% fatal even when treatment is given... hardly something to sneeze at - pardon the pun.

Actually we don't know what the mortality rate is in the US, because supportive care is more advanced in the US. Of the patients who have come here so far, the mortality rate is 0%. Obviously that will rise, but I think you're wrong to assume it will rise over 50%.

165 posted on 10/03/2014 6:02:17 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Keep wishing and hoping... The level of treatment given to survivors has been approximating that of treatment in America - not a wet cloth applied to the brow...


166 posted on 10/03/2014 6:53:13 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Alter Kaker

“I didn’t think anybody could have more than a 100% chance.”
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I didn’t think anything could be reduced by more than 100% either but we have people posting on FR who don’t seem to understand why I object to terms such as “300 percent less”. If it is possible to have 300 percent less of something then surely it must be possible to have greater than a 100 percent chance of something happening. It’s the new math, don’t you know? It’s what allows us to have six percent unemployment with only fifty percent employment. Didn’t you enjoy the 2800 percent reduction in your health insurance premium? Oh, that’s right, Obama only said that SOME people would see that great a reduction, not one hundred and fifty percent of us. Those who got it must be in great shape, they are getting free health insurance plus a monthly check from the insurance company for 27 times their old health insurance premium, they should be able to live on that without working. Ain’t Obamacare grand?


167 posted on 10/03/2014 7:34:49 PM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: Alter Kaker

You just don’t get it do you... Much of the care given in West Africa was of more than a sufficient level...and people still died ... I am sorry you don’t believe statistics that are published widely ... But while medical treatment in American can certainly be good ... it is not magical - people will still die at a high rate... Until there is a immunization that actually works - medical treatment will not cut the mortality rate in half or some other fanciful wish you may have... Talking about a death rate in American — I wish to point out to you the EPIDEMIC that can and may likely happen HAS NOT HAPPENED YET... Do all the wishful thinking you want ... Is this some politically motivate crap you are doing - to lessen the impact on obama’s dumb ass policies?


168 posted on 10/03/2014 10:17:03 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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