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To: Yosemitest
At USAF bases, it was common place for "Coordinators" between the "Arrival Controller" and the "Tower Local Controller" to build holes for departures by telling the "Radar Coordinator" to run 3 arrivals as close together as possible, and then to leave a 15 mile hole for departures, so as to get 3 or 4 flights of fighters airborne.

Yep, at Travis, we had coordinator positions between tower and Approach. We did the same thing, got a hole to launch 141s and C-5s. The holes were not so much for separation purposes, but for wake turbulence There was no danger of them hitting each other, because we had parllel runways. It was wake turbulence. People called us from other bases, like Dover and other places, to get help on wake turbulence procedures also.

I was already in Germany when the strike happened. There was a guy coming from Griffis, who was on leave and was told not to answer any phones, so he could escape to Germany too. He helped train me as a 2 striper at MT Home.

38 posted on 09/28/2014 7:31:36 PM PDT by Mark17 (So we tanned his hide when he died Clyde and that's it hanging on the shed. Altogether now)
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To: Mark17
I always wanted to go to Mt Home, but when I had orders to Mt Home in 92, I got "Diverted" to March AFB, due to a "Mgmt Shootout".
While hopping back off leave to Osan in 95 , I got a tour in Travis Tower, and I also had a friend at Beal (I think, about 30 miles east of Travis) where the U-2s trained, that showed me that tower.
I've got 5 years with the FAA after I retired from the USAF and they didn't learn much from the USAF.
They still use some techniques, but there is NO "team work" to the FAA.
They are all about individual ability, and they'll watch a controller "go down the tubes" and then won't lift a finger to help him.
They thrive off of eating their own.
They also don't like to work any harder than is required to keep their jobs.
It doesn't bother them at all, if traffic doesn't move due to mis=-information.
In general, they JUST DON'T CARE.
41 posted on 09/28/2014 8:10:33 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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