Posted on 09/26/2014 7:03:28 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) declared his opposition to granting amnesty for illegal immigrants and contrasted this with his Independent opponent’s support for amnesty on Friday’s “Laura Ingraham Show.”
“[Orman] says he that wants to grant citizenship to all illegal aliens if they pay a small fine and promise to obey the law, these people have already broken the law. I have fought amnesty every time I will always fight amnesty, that’s a big difference in our debate" he said. Roberts added that he would “absolutely not” support increasing guest workers in the United States.
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Senators do not vote for who is Speaker of the House.
I actually don’t disagree Boehner’s tenure has been quite poor...awful, in fact, but your comments don’t carry a great deal of weight - either you did not know Senators have no role in choosing who the Speaker of the House is or you didn’t know Pat Roberts in a Senator - and in either case you clearly don’t pay enough attention to what goes on to know what Boehner has done or not done. Sorry, but that’s just the facts.
Pro-amnesty people demand that President Obama give work visas to at least 8,000,000+ illegals.
But pro-amnesty traitors conveniently forget to mention that many of these 8,000,000 illegals who will get work visas have husbands/wives and children.
24,000,000 illegals get amnesty: Pro-amnesty people are not really talking about 8,000,000 illegals, because they secretly know in their hearts that they are really talking about more like 24,000,000 illegals----3 times 8,000,000 illegals--- who will eventually get AMNESTY when President Obama takes his pen and quickly signs his executive order in a few weeks.
how did I arrive at the number of 24,000,000 illegals? I did it this way: I multiplied 8,000,000 illegals by 3.
1. Obviously, illegal immigrant men need their wives and children to keep them company. and many of them are already here.
2. And illegal immigrant women need their husbands to help them with the children.
3. Also, these illegal immigrants with their new work visas will now have no fear that immigration agents will be coming to their home to check to see how many in the household besides the visa holder are here legally.
4. So once they get their work visas, they can invite any number of relatives to live with them without fear that immigration officials will be coming to their unexpectedly to check the status of the people in the home. As long as visa holders pay their rent on time and their children attend school, we can be sure that no immigration officials will bother them and their families.
My point is this: Work visa holders and their growing families will be here forever. Basically, deportation of these illegals and their families will never happen, if President Obama has his way and goes ahead and signs his executive order soon after the midterm election.
5. You see, you can't very well legalize 8,000,000 illegals by giving them work visas, on the one hand, and then, on the other hand, turn around and deport husbands and wives and children of the work visa holders, persons who may not qualify for work visas for one reason or the other.
6. So I believe that multiplying 8,000,000 illegals by 3 is a good conservative estimate of how many illegals will immediately benefit from President Obama's executive order---an estimate based on a household with two parents, one child.
7.Of course, many households will be single households with no children.
8.But, as we know, many, many households of illegals who will be given work visas will have two or more children, so all those many children will easily make up for those households in my 24,000,000 estimate that have no children.
9. So that is the way I concluded that 24,000,000+ illegals will really get amnesty when traitor President Obama gives away our country with the simple signing of his executive order: 8,000,000 million illegal work visa holders times a conservative estimate of 3 member's in each illegal immigrant household.
10. Again, when President Obama quickly signs his executive order soon after the mid-term elections, he will NOT be giving amnesty to just 8,000,000 illegals as the pro-amnesty people want us to believe.
11. Rather, when the smoke clears, anti-amnesty people will wake up one morning and suddenly realize that the pro-amnesty people and President Obama have pulled off one of the biggest scams in history, because President Obama will really give amnesty to 24,000,000 illegals, not 8,000,000 illegals as President Obama will claim when he signs his executive order soon after the mid-term elections.
NOTE: 'Because it was the right thing to do." This is Obama's favorite phrase when he wants to justify his decision on a controversial subject like illegal immigration.
It is as if Obama wants us to believe that his decision is divinely inspired, that is, God himself told him what to do. What a bunch of crap.
So be prepared to hear Obama's phrase---"Because it was the right thing to do"---over and over after Obama signs the worst executive order ever.
It is the worst ever because President Obama will lie to us and give amnesty to not 8,000,000 illegals as Obama will lead us to believe when he signs the executive order, but to an unbelievable number of 24,000,000 illegals. Sick. Sick. Sick.
NOTE: If the government can't handle those hundreds of illegals who crossed the Mexican border recently, how in the world is the government going to process the 8,000.000 illegals that President Obama will give amnesty to in a few weeks after the mid-term elections? No way. No way.
If you look at my post history you will see that I take a big picture view. It simply does not matter to me where the guy is. Because, real world actions show him supporting the very GOP leadership that is pushing all the things we claim to hate. In the end, his support for the GOP leadership is what carries the weight. Not my comments. At the end of the day his actions are what matter...as do the rest of their actions. They abandoned most of their actual jobs so to be perfectly honest, I see the whole mess as one big political blob.
Which it is. When they return to their constitutional duties as written, I’ll care enough. But right now, with senators/congressman campaigning/fundraising/interfering in races/processes they have no business in, they don’t so I don’t. All I care about is 5 in about 500 actually take their oaths/jobs seriously and Pookie here ain’t one of them.
I think you’re confused Norm. Roberts does NOT vote on the Speaker of the House. He is a Senator. Boehner is in the House of Representatives. But, I guarantee you, he WILL vote for Mitch McConnell for Senate Majority Leader. The same Mitch McConnell who hates Tea Partiers and Conservatives and vows to crush them wherever he finds them. Even people with convictions on certain issues, fall snare to the “Good Ol’ Boy Club” in D.C. Roberts will vote for McConnell.
No, I get that. What I was basically getting at is what you said. I should have said Mitch and I choked. But I didn’t and I’m sure it will be used as an excuse for some to ignore the point.
but as you said, he will back GOP leadership. Well once he finds his house anyway.
He was a yes note on cloture and that’s all that matters.
Wake up!
McConnell told his GOP moderates to vote ‘Yes’ on cloture and they could cover themselves with a ‘No’ on the bill.
It’s a trick that progressive republicans use to boost their conservative credentials. It advances their underlying progressive agenda while making themselves look conservative. The GOP establishment can safely vote against Amnesty after they hand the opportunity to the democrats to vote for it. And it passed just as they knew it would. If they were truly against it, they would have voted ‘No’ on cloture and the Amnesty Bill would have been shelved. But McConnell backed by funds from the Chamber of Commerce told his progressive ring to vote ‘Yes’ for Cloture and then whatever they wanted on the actual bill as it would not matter. The Cloture Vote was the real vote.
Here on FR we are on to McConnell and his tricks. Roberts is one of the old tired horses in his stable. Roberts does what he’s told once he’s given cover.
If McConnell becomes Senate Majority leader, he will advance Amnesty by making a head fake ‘bipartisan’ agreement on ‘Border Security’, and then will move the bipartisan bill to the House where Boehner will call a floor vote and use all the dems and a few GOP progressive House members to pass it for Obama’s signature. GOP progressives in both House and Senate will praise themselves for sticking to their fake conservative principles on Border Security. And the America people just as before will never see Border Security even though they overwhelmingly want it. Bet on it!
I think you’re mistaken.
Roberts was a no on cloture. Look it up.
But don’t let facts mess with your imagination.
Thanks for that link. I remember seeing a list of those that voted nay on that bill and I don’t remember seeing Roberts name on it.
Perhaps I judged wrong. Why is it then that so many believe he is McConnell’s man?
I know exactly who the misguided House Speaker is. I know how he is elected. What I don’t understand is how his colleagues could have elected him in the first place. . .but then take a look at their records. My family had been quite active in Republican politics for many years until it was becoming evident that the party was full of a bunch of self-serving politicians ad nausea. . . .the best investment I made was caller ID. . .no RNC house and senate donations here!
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