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To: antidisestablishment
We were the only dumb asses that voted again and again for the lying, miserable, conniving, amoral hacks that they ran despite all our misgivings and ultimately, our principles.

Unless we wrest the party back, there is no party.

I feel exactly as you do. The question is how do we get some honest representation?

202 posted on 09/23/2014 8:39:09 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: oldbrowser

By understanding the old saying that an honest politician is one who stays bought.

People keep referring to the GOPe/GOP leadership as Liberal. They aren’t, and saying that gives them undeserved credit for actually having an ideology.

In reality they’re just craven opportunists. Which is a MUCH better thing for Conservatives than if they were ideologues. Craven opportunists can be bought, ideologues not so much.

Where Conservative fail is in how we do a good job (occasionally) at making a lot of noise and in voting. What we need to focus on is changing the money game. Because money is what buys early, and continued support.

By that I don’t mean individual contributions. I mean standing up organizations that are designed to raise and then dole out money in return for defined and measurable actions by those who seek the money.

The Dems have a MASSIVE number of these organizations, and they’ve reached the point where they are tightly coupled with, and indistinguishable from, the Party itself.

We only have a few organizations along those lines, SCF and Heritage Action fall into that category but they seem focused on running primary challengers rather than compelling existing politicians to make commitments and hold them responsible for keeping them. The various Tea Party orgs never matured, like the whole slew of Dem “Netroots” orgs did, past the noisemaking/rallying stage.


203 posted on 09/23/2014 8:51:34 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: oldbrowser

Revolt? Revolution? Assassination? Take over the national hq by force?

I really see no non-violent option. The entire upper party is corrupt. Most of us work for a living and can’t afford to spend our time protesting and we have families who need us.


205 posted on 09/23/2014 11:11:01 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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