[Political Junkie Too]

We have seen MANY ways in which the Oligarchy has been successful in making the Constitution irrelevant and of no effect upon imposing its agenda.

Those have been limited to the balance of power between the branches, such as with recess appointments, passing budgets vs. continuing resolutions, executive regulations vs. legislation, etc.

I'm talking about authorizing power amendments, such as term limits or repealing the 17th amendment. One cannot easily ignore those Article V outcomes without threatening the entire Constitutional construct.

-PJ

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One cannot easily ignore those Article V outcomes without threatening the entire Constitutional construct.

True. But they will, and it would be wise to discuss and figure out that inevitability.

[INVAR]

I'm talking about authorizing power amendments, such as term limits or repealing the 17th amendment. One cannot easily ignore those Article V outcomes without threatening the entire Constitutional construct.

Part of the discussion has to be the expectation that the tyrannical oligarchy we seek to restrain and limit, WILL make attempts to do just that and claim that they are acting within legality while you and I are acting from a 'destructive'/'disruptive' mindset.

If that discussion is not going to take place, and everyone is going to assume that the power in Washington is simply bloated and NOT a tyranny - then there is no point in attempting an Article V convention because the proponents are not serious and/or ignorant about what the Establishment Oligarchy is likely capable of.

Again, I'm proceeding from the historical fact and precedent that you cannot limit a usurping and tyrannical Oligarchy via civil means.

I think a frank discussion about what the plan will be if this 'last attempt' to rein -in an out of control federal leviathan by civil means is thwarted and blocked.