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To: MeatshieldActual
Iran is run by Islamic fanatics seeking to bring about the Apocalypse, which is why I DO NOT include them in the civilized nation list.

And they are armed by Russia and are even receiving aid, both political and physical, for their nuclear program. And yet you would fail to exclude Russia, a country where people are still beaten, tortured and murdered by the state, from the civilized nation list?

Meanwhile, I am confident that China and Russia aren’t that stupid

Why? Both nations are unrepentant mass murderers. Even in Russia, Gulag guards responsible for the brutal murder of thousands upon thousands of people are still protected from extradition by the regime and are honored as "veterans" of the great patriotic war. The regime in the Kremlin is even working on rehabilitating Joseph Stalin as a patriotic hero of the nation.

At any rate, it would better serve China’s interest to take over Russia rather than America.

And yet China is preparing for war not against Russia, but against the United States, who are still depicted in their state run media as the world's bad guy.

On the subject of key assets, the US and NATO control GPS. Good luck to Russia and China guiding munitions without it.

If I remember correctly, the Russkies have been developing, or already have developed, their own version, along with modernizing their nuclear forces. Not only that, but Russia is actively subverting the right wing in our country. Members of Ron Paul's Peace Foundation, for example, were members of shady Pro-Soviet "human rights" groups, likely FSB/KGB constructs. And now they pose as Libertarians who call for isolationism and blame the United States for all the world's woes.

Why would Russia be running a covert information war against this country and the rest of the West if it did not have hostile intentions?

95 posted on 09/19/2014 6:07:07 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“And they are armed by Russia and are even receiving aid, both political and physical, for their nuclear program. And yet you would fail to exclude Russia, a country where people are still beaten, tortured and murdered by the state, from the civilized nation list?”

Let me clarify, the Russian government is not civilized but the people are. Unlike their Iranian proxies, Russian oligarchs have an interest in living so that they can enjoy their earthly life. Meanwhile, the Iranian government is obsessed with the afterlife.

“Why? Both nations are unrepentant mass murderers...”

Killing your own population, and starting a nuclear war with another nation are two different things. Governments can kill their own people without much world response, but dropping the A-bomb? That changes everything. In this unlikely event, Russia and China would quickly be annihilated. If they conduct wars with conventional weapons, they might avoid this destruction.

“And yet China is preparing for war not against Russia, but against the United States, who are still depicted in their state run media as the world’s bad guy.”

Its a ruse, why would China want to go to war with the US when we are separated by the Pacific? Meanwhile, Russia is collapsing right next door, so China stands to benefit from taking Russia’s stuff rather than screw around with NATO. After all of Putin’s tyranny, I doubt the international community would do much to stop China. A good thief goes for the easiest target with the best loot, and that is Russia.

“If I remember correctly, the Russkies have been developing, or already have developed, their own version, along with modernizing their nuclear forces.”

If I recall correctly, their system far from complete. During the Russo-Georgian War, we shut down Russian access to GPS which denied their flyboys the ability to use smart bombs. Again, I’m not concerned about Russian nukes, the leaders want to live.

“Not only that, but Russia is actively subverting the right wing in our country. Members of Ron Paul’s Peace Foundation, for example, were members of shady Pro-Soviet “human rights” groups, likely FSB/KGB constructs. And now they pose as Libertarians who call for isolationism and blame the United States for all the world’s woes.”

So? I agree Ron Paul is an ass-clown, but the Russians are not as smart as they think they are. Remember the illegals program a few years ago?

“Why would Russia be running a covert information war against this country and the rest of the West if it did not have hostile intentions?”

Hostile intentions and the ability to cause harm are two different things. Watching Putin trying to conquer the world is like watching Wile E Coyote cartoons.


98 posted on 09/20/2014 12:51:57 AM PDT by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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