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The Seriously Nasty Party: With one day to go, damning evidence of the bullying intimidation…
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 17:59 EST, 16 September 2014 | John Stevens

Posted on 09/16/2014 4:54:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The dark side of the campaign for Scottish independence can be laid bare today.

In a string of sinister incidents, separatists have used bullying and intimidation to cow their rivals.

Pro-union voters have endured stone-throwing, been called traitors and faced threats that their houses will be torched.

Many are now said to be too scared to show their support for fear of reprisals that might follow a defeat for the nationalists in tomorrow’s vote. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexsalmond; eussr; independence; scotland; scotlandyet; snp; unitedkingdom
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t yet see a reason the newly independent Scotland is going to be friendly to the U.S. The thug who leads that pro-independence party equates Israel and ISIS. At best, they’ll be “neutral;” at worst, they’ll be hostile and pro-HAMAS.


21 posted on 09/16/2014 5:39:36 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: Olog-hai

Are the accusations true, or is this a last minute smear by pro-EU forces?


22 posted on 09/16/2014 5:47:40 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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Though, conservatives would naturally tend to support independence, their “yes” party is just as nasty and evil as the worst of our democrats. It will be a disaster for right minded Scotts. Scottland probably would do well independent, but the leaders of that movement are Pelosi and Reid on steroids. Though, if they did break away, it may allow UKIP to fully take over the UK.


23 posted on 09/16/2014 5:52:37 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: dsrtsage

True.

And since the UK government, as currently constituted, has never “allowed” their citizens an up/down vote regarding membership in the EU...I’m just sitting back with some popcorn, watching the show.

By USA standards, there are no “conservatives” in the UK.
If one looks at a world globe, it’s really just a shitty little imploding empire, with an extremely long history of multiple global wars and failures.

The EU has already failed.
They have already run out of “other peoples money”.

Lot’s of decent people over there let their government get entirely out of control.
Unfortunately, we in the USA are making the same mistakes they did.


24 posted on 09/16/2014 7:55:44 PM PDT by sarasmom (The Benghazi Brief – (Extortion 17 also partially explained))
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To: Olog-hai

O’bama and Clinton both in favour of UK staying together. That is me convinced.


25 posted on 09/17/2014 2:53:37 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MadMitch

Convinced of what?

It’s the farthest of left elements that is pushing for the “independence” move; it’s about who’s offering the most handouts. Consider Salmond’s friends on the world scene too.


26 posted on 09/17/2014 3:02:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Convinced I’m voting YES.

Believing that Scottish independence is all about Alex Salmond is like thinking America’s independence was all about Peyton Randolph.


27 posted on 09/17/2014 5:11:11 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MadMitch

That’s denying the facts.

The so-called “National” Party is yet another socialist outfit. What with a 79 Grouper actually leading it, it will take an “independent” Alba into a squalid future.


28 posted on 09/17/2014 5:20:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You don’t get it do you?. It is not about Alex Salmond it is about self determination for the Scottish people.


29 posted on 09/17/2014 5:34:58 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MadMitch
Is it? When it’s about getting more handouts, how is it about self-determination?

The Irish Republicans claimed that self-rule was about self-determination too; but Éamon de Valera sold Ireland out to the European Union (then the EEC) back in 1972, with language in the Irish Constitution’s Third Amendment that made European law supreme over Irish law. A further-left Scotland will most likely suffer the same fate.

By the way, the phrase “self-determination” has been abused by many tyrants and terrorists over the years. It is not a phrase that retains validity.
30 posted on 09/17/2014 6:31:07 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Scotland has only 8.3% of the UK’s population. 8.3%! Remember this important figure... 8.3%

But we DO have...

32% of the land area.
61% of the sea area.
90% of the fresh water.
65% of the natural gas production.
96.5% of the crude oil production.
47% of the open cast coal production
81% of the untapped coal reserves
62% of the timber production
46% of the total forest area
92% of the hydro electric production
40% of the wind wave and solar energy production
60% of the fish landings
30% of the beef herd
20% of the sheep herd
9% of the dairy herd
10% of the pig herd
15% if the cereal holdings
20% of the potato holdings
...obviously 100% of the Scotch Whisky industry.

We have a...
17 billion pound construction industry
13 billion food and drink industry
10 billion business services industry
9.3 billion chemical services industry
A 9.3 billion tourism industry
7 billion financial services industry
5 billion aeroservice industry
4.5 billion pound whisky exports industry
3.1 billion pound life sciences industry
Scotland still has 350 million pounds worth of textile exports

We have 25% of Europes wave and wind energy potential.

And finally we are blessed to have 1.5 trillion pound worth of oil and gas reserves.

Cameron, Clegg and Milliband really want us to stay as we cost the UK money. Do not believe Westmisters lies.


31 posted on 09/17/2014 7:09:35 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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. . . because the socialists’ lies are better?

When socialists drive for “independence”, you can bet it’s a ploy to lead you into deeper slavery. Salmond is not the only socialist involved in this move by far.


32 posted on 09/17/2014 7:13:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Is this all about Salmond?


33 posted on 09/17/2014 7:18:22 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MadMitch

Not by a long shot. He is not the only socialist involved in this.


34 posted on 09/17/2014 7:23:43 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So it is up to the Scottish people what sort of leadership they want. In other words self determination.


35 posted on 09/17/2014 7:34:16 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MadMitch
The Nazis also preached “self-determination”. It is not a guiding principle in and of itself, certainly not necessarily for the health and freedom of a nation.

It is not the right of a people to lead itself into ruin. That said, the same applies to the other nations in Britain.
36 posted on 09/17/2014 7:39:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You would rather Scotland stayed part of the UK? Which according to the experts on here is ruled from Londonstain, where Jews can’t walk down the street without being killed, where Mohammed is the most popular name, Shaira law is rife. Or become independent and live in a country that is 98% white, christian, may have our troubles but lets get over run by the mooslimbs!


37 posted on 09/17/2014 7:49:48 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MadMitch

You would rather Scotland be dominated by socialists? because you aren’t getting away from England’s problems merely by seceding. With Socialists in power (and they won’t be going away), those problems will follow; not that they aren’t there already.


38 posted on 09/17/2014 8:02:04 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Answer my question please.


39 posted on 09/17/2014 8:03:01 AM PDT by MadMitch (nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MadMitch

I did. Scotland becoming independent at this time turns it into a socialist state. Why support socialism by calling it “self-determination”? It’s really not enough to point out the Muslim Labour politicians arguing against independence. There’s also the encroachment of the European Union to consider.


40 posted on 09/17/2014 8:10:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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