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Is Scotland Big Enough To Go it Alone?
Mises ^ | 12 September 2014 | Peter St. Onge

Posted on 09/14/2014 7:49:39 PM PDT by Lorianne

In a curious coincidence, 2014 Scotland and 1994 Quebec have nearly the same population: about 5–6 million. About the same as Denmark or Norway, and half-a-million more than Ireland. Even on physical area Scotland’s no slouch: about the size of Holland or Ireland, and three times the size of Jamaica. The fact that Ireland, Norway, and Jamaica are all considered sustainably-sized countries argues for the separatists here.

So small is possible. But is it a good idea?

The answer, perhaps surprisingly, is resoundingly “Yes!” Statistically speaking, at least. Why? Because according to numbers from the World Bank Development Indicators, among the 45 sovereign countries in Europe, small countries are nearly twice as wealthy as large countries. The gap between biggest-10 and smallest-10 ranges between 84 percent (for all of Europe) to 79 percent (for only Western Europe).

This is a huge difference: To put it in perspective, even a 79 percent change in wealth is about the gap between Russia and Denmark. That’s massive considering the historical and cultural similarities especially within Western Europe.

Even among linguistic siblings the differences are stark: Germany is poorer than the small German-speaking states (Switzerland, Austria, Luxembourg, and Liechtenstein), France is poorer than the small French-speaking states (Belgium, Andorra, Luxembourg, and Switzerland again and, of course, Monaco). Even Ireland, for centuries ravaged by the warmongering English, is today richer than their former masters in the United Kingdom, a country 15 times larger.

Why would this be? There are two reasons. First, smaller countries are often more responsive to their people. The smaller the country the stronger the policy feedback loop. Meaning truly awful ideas tend to get corrected earlier. Had Mao Tse Tung been working with an apartment complex instead of a country of nearly a billion-people, his wacky ideas wouldn’t have killed millions.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexsalmond; eurabia; europeanunion; opec; scotland; scotlandyet; unitedkingdom
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To: Greysard

I’m afraid I have to agree. Moreover, Zimbabwe hasn’t had its own currency since 2009. It can get away with that, I don’t think that Scotland can.


21 posted on 09/14/2014 8:33:45 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jack Hydrazine

A factor could be that they don’t want the same failed immigration policy that is ruining England to ruin Scotland.


22 posted on 09/14/2014 8:35:10 PM PDT by boycott
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To: batterycommander

Q: What do you call a scottish highlander with four sheep ?

A: A pimp.


23 posted on 09/14/2014 8:35:43 PM PDT by batterycommander
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To: batterycommander

Actually the ones tending the sheep and long haired cattle were typically girls.

I was born and raised in a county in Florida which was settled by Highland Scots mainly from the Western Islands.

In 1960, by a large majority most of the people in Walton County had Scottish surnames. They must have been attractive people as my high school was absolutely over run with beautiful girls.


24 posted on 09/14/2014 8:37:12 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: boycott

If Scotland secedes do you think they would start exporting their Muzzies back to their respective homelands?


25 posted on 09/14/2014 8:37:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Reverend Wright
they don’t currently have any way to collect their own: income tax, payroll tax, corporate tax, excise tax. they admit they will be dependent on britain to collect these taxes after “independence” for years to come.

Curiously, every medieval baron was able and very much willing to collect taxes from everyone he could reach. Is the entire Scotland, armed with computers, barcode scanners, and the Internet, less capable than one barely literate man and his ten soldiers?

Otherwise it would appear that only an already independent country can declare independence. This is nonsense, of course. Countries form, merge and fall apart all the time. Yugoslavia separated into several states just ten or fifteen years ago. They are doing fine.

26 posted on 09/14/2014 8:39:09 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I doubt that but they could better contain the disease.


27 posted on 09/14/2014 8:42:30 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Judging from past election results, independent Scotland would be overwhelmingly socialist. Very possibly Muslims from the suddenly more conservative “UK” would relocate to Scotland.


28 posted on 09/14/2014 8:47:38 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: PGR88
As the author points out, any small nation can succeed, but Scots will need to lose their addiction to welfare and government employment first.

That's the key, and from the looks of things, the Scots are rushing into this without stopping to think about what it is they'd like to become, apart from "not English."

29 posted on 09/14/2014 8:48:33 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Greysard

“Is the entire Scotland, armed with computers, barcode scanners, and the Internet, less capable than one barely literate man and his ten soldiers?”

oh they will get there eventually. Maybe in 2022 when they finally issue their own drivers licenses.

think of how well obamacare has gone - that’s just one program

before “independence” scotland has to set up the equivalent of: the IRS, social security administration, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, head start, subsidized housing administration, USPS, ... none of these things exist as separate entities in scotland right now

how long do you think it will take to do that little lot ?


30 posted on 09/14/2014 9:16:49 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (the Obama Presidency: if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesnÂ’t make them Kobe Bryant)
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To: jjotto
Judging from past election results, independent Scotland would be overwhelmingly socialist. Very possibly Muslims from the suddenly more conservative “UK” would relocate to Scotland.


Socialist yes, but also nationalistic.

The Scots are proud of the heritage, more so than the English, and they certainly don't trust non-drinkers....:^)

31 posted on 09/14/2014 9:23:38 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: Reverend Wright
before “independence” scotland has to set up the equivalent of: the IRS, social security administration, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, head start, subsidized housing administration, USPS, ... none of these things exist as separate entities in scotland right now -- how long do you think it will take to do that little lot ?

Six months top. All done in parallel, by different people. For example, how much time would you need to set up a postal service if you already have local carriers and trucks and offices? (I don't think that any of that is done by personnel that drives to work every morning from London.)

All this had been done on more than one occasion in history. It will be easier today because you can borrow best practices from similar systems of other countries. They will be even happy, for a small fee, to send you some of their experienced people to get you started. None of this is rocket science. It's actually rather trivial. In many cases all that needs to change in the org chart is reporting. Do not forget, human resources are plentiful, and most are already familiar with their jobs, no matter if they are "separate entities" or subdivisions of some department of UK. Physically, the social worker and the mail carrier and the policeman are all local people. Now they will have a local boss, and the local Treasury will be financing them.

32 posted on 09/14/2014 9:41:09 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Lorianne

Still Report #322 - Scotland: Black Swan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWnFVqX79DY


33 posted on 09/14/2014 9:46:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Lorianne

Are there any Muslims in Scotland?


34 posted on 09/14/2014 9:49:12 PM PDT by jetson
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To: Lorianne
small countries just don’t have the money to engage in truly crazy ideas. Like Wars on Terror or world-wide daisy-chains of military bases.

No, so they must be defended by the countries that can maintain world-wide daisy-chains of military bases.

35 posted on 09/14/2014 10:06:52 PM PDT by marron
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To: Billthedrill
another advantage of smaller nations is that they tend to be more ethnically and culturally homogeneous, a thing that is the more quickly threatened for all that by ill-informed immigration policy.

Two important points in one. They can quickly commit suicide by ill-considered immigration policy. Independence doesn't mean much if they are still ruled by non-scots.

A dynamic economy will usually need to allow fairly free movement of people and money. But they must be clear with themselves that they are a small country and opening themselves to people who will never assimilate culturally defeats the very purpose of independence.

36 posted on 09/14/2014 10:12:05 PM PDT by marron
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To: Lorianne

The Scottish Nationalist are NOT a bunch of freedom loving free market capitalist conservatives....They are big government welfare state leftist.

Here are some of their platform.

1. They fear that welfare payments will be cut. Instead they pledge to increase welfare payments.

2. They claim that the government is planning to privatize all or some of the National Health System. They pledge to expand the NHS.

3. They want Scotland to adopt the Euro and give more power to the EU.

4. They want open border immigration.

5. They want no waiting period for immigrants to get benefits.

6. They want to nationalize major industries and banks.


37 posted on 09/14/2014 10:25:00 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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A vote for separation is a vote to destroy Scottish nationality. As if that's a bad thing.
38 posted on 09/14/2014 11:05:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Snickering Hound

Nope, that woud be Norway. Scotland has the lion’s share of the current figure for the UK, but part of those will remain, uh, English.


39 posted on 09/14/2014 11:12:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marron

/bingo

That’s exactly what the separation is supposed to accomplish.


40 posted on 09/14/2014 11:13:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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