“First - keep your condescending “bless your heart” crap to yourself. Saying something you don’t mean is tantamount to lying.”
Good grief.
“So - since you didn’t intend to imply that it was Israel’s fault that “Middle East Christians are being slaughtered” - what, pray tell, was the reason for using that statement in a defense of their antisemitism? Why am I justified in hating Joe just because Fred gave me a black eye? Why are you wrong to ask me to support Joe when Fred is threatening me?”
Nowhere did I indicate in any way that Israel is at fault for Christians being slaughtered. Identify where I did, or admit you are wrong. It’s a matter of focus. If Abdul is punching you, it might not be the best time for Ted to lecture you about your lack of love for Chaim. Or, I could be wrong.
“So the US has given aid to Israel while not doing much to help the plight of these Christians....so that is a good reason for them to hate Israel? I understand that certain wealthy people have been very generous to some people in need. I have a very great financial need at the moment - is it logical for me to hate these needy folks who received help because I didn’t get help?”
No, that’s not a good reason for them to hate Israel. Did I say it was? Where? They should not resent Israel. They do. If they didn’t, their plight would be the same. If they all suddenly had a change of heart, nothing would change.
‘“...my initial reaction would have been ‘F you, Ted, what have they ever done for us?’” Really? You are that shallow? That venal? You refuse to support anybody who has not done something for you? and you support such an attitude from these so-called Christians? SHAME ON YOU! I see nowhere in the Bible where Christ calls us to love and be kind and pray for those people who have done stuff for us...but nobody else.”’
The word INITIAL was included for a reason. They need help, not a lecture. Again, when Abdul is punching you, I doubt you want to hear a lecture from Ted about your relationship with Chaim.
“It would have been easier, more logical, and more honest to admit that you did intend to imply that Israel is responsible for the actions of the muslims...because to deny it makes your original statement even more ludicrous.”
That makes no sense at all. Nothing I said could be taken as a construct under which Israel is responsible for the Muslims’ actions. If Abdul is punching you, and Ted starts lecturing you about your lack of love for Chaim, I don’t see how Bob could really say that Chaim caused Abdul to punch you. It seems to me that Abdul punching you is the real issue.
Help me out here:
If they support Israel, will Israel help them?
If they support Israel, will the U.S. help them?
If they support Israel, will the Muslims stop the butchering?
If they support Israel, will God smile upon them? Best chance of the lot.
What was the point?
Again - don’t try to climb up on your shetland and pretend it’s a high-horse with your “Good grief”. You know that your “bless your heart” was a simpering condescension - so don’t pretend it was anything else.
The point is that you make no sense. You justify the hate - or at least you chastise Ted for calling for stopping the hate. But without justification.
There were NO Christians in that room being slaughtered while Ted was speaking. Sure, while I’m getting pummeled is not the time for anybody to lecture me about anything - WHEN I’M GETTING PUMMELED. However, in between beatings, it is totally appropriate to talk to me about someone who is in the same fight, and ask for my support. That was the situation.
Please read what I wrote and you copied: “So - since you didn’t intend to imply that it was Israel’s fault...” Why do you keep arguing that you never indicated that Israel was at fault? Read what I wrote again if you are struggling with that question. My assumption was the most reasonable conclusion for one to take from your original post...all of your other explanations make even less sense.
You use the US aid in your argument - the implication being that it is a justification for their actions...you were, after all, defending their actions to some degree. Now you concede it DOESN’T justify their actions...so WHY did you mention it? If it isn’t a statement to support your defense of their behavior, it is just superfluous blather.
“If they all suddenly had a change of heart, nothing would change.”
Read that quote again and see if you can find the paradox within it. Isn’t Christianity all about changing hearts, starting with our own?
Finally, you justify the behavior of these “Christians” by listing a series of “What’s in it for me?” questions on their behalf. Odd.
If they are the Christians they claim to be, their hatred of Israel is a very pertinent topic at a conference entitled with their Christianity. It is probably a more important topic than any other. Christ did not become the conquering prince the Jews wanted Him to be, He preached salvation and love. He was not unaware or unfeeling of their plight under the Romans, He just chose to address the vitally important topic of salvation, forgiveness and love. I’m not equating Cruz with Christ, but that is exactly what he was doing, he was exemplifying Christ by calling their attention to a critically important flaw in their thinking....and he was reviled, as Christ was, for not telling them what they wanted to hear.
You tried, but you failed. There is simply no justification for those who call themselves Christian to hate Jews, or to boo and hiss at those who call for an end to that hate.