[Talisker]

Please remember, this scenario is simply to illustrate the absolute necessity of preventing Iran from getting the bomb.

And if you are correct about the absolute, utter inability of our intelligence assets to find their @sses with both hands, how do you propose we do that? Or where are we going to find the will, since, according to you this country is mainly just waiting for the excuse to surrender anyway?

[nathanbedford]

The obvious response is to point to Ronald Reagan and his impact on history, the history of his day which in so many ways parallels our present experience. A charismatic leader with the right message can carry the country out of its "malaise" and onto the "sunny uplands" dreamed of by Churchill in the darkest days of World War II. Reagan did it. Churchill did it.