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To: jazusamo; Travis McGee; Alas Babylon!; Jim Robinson; Taxman
I so respect Thomas Sowell. However, I do have a problem with his, "When President John F. Kennedy took the United States to the brink of nuclear war in 1962 — justifiably, I believe..."

I know what he meant, but could have worded it better as in, "When the Soviets took us to the brink of nuclear war by putting nukes in Cuba, Kennedy put up a blockade and the Soviets stood down and remove the missles from Cuba". Yes, I know that we had to remove or stop installation of Pershing missles as a compromise. So what? He stopped nuclear war!

Interestingly, JFK as a democrat, was more conservative than most of our current GOPe. He believed in the greatness of the American model and it's founding ideals. Most, if not all of us are alive today because he had the strength of character to make the difficult decision against the Soviets' plans. He called their bluff and they went a way. He made his mistakes, Bay of Pigs and having Lyndon Johnson as vice-president (the "Great Society" socialist). I miss leaders like JFK and I was just a child.

Also wished his brother had not been murdered - they were of like mind and Robert Kennedy would have probably made a good President being as insightful and determined as John for the good of America.

1. Then we get Lyndon Johnson who not only increased FDR's socialist programs, but micro-managed the Viet Nam war to the loss of 58,000 troops, not to mentioned the countless injured/maimed;
2. Next up was Nixon who was okay, but just stupid about the Watergate cover-up;
3. Then the feckless Carter who even announced our "malaise" instead of talking about the potential of America's future. The economy went to sh*t under his administration;
4. Then Ronald Reagan announced we are "The Shining City on the Hill" and brought belief back into our Constitutional system and street morale. He was all positive and through his and Margaret Thatcher's efforts brought down the Berlin Wall and devastated the Soviet Union. Yeah, he made mistakes also when believing if he signed the Congressional Amnesty deal, he would get further concessions which never occurred; 6. Bill Clinton, the womanizer, did a good thing by signing welfare reform, although he kept moving the line in speeches until the Repub congress forced him sign it, when the Repubs would fight for principles. But then he lied to the entire world, got impeached, and loss his lawyer license and became the butt of jokes world wide;
7. George W. Bush was somewhat of a Reagan reincarnation. However, he increased Medicare entitlements and I now believe he made a mistake by going into Iraq. Still, he honored the Oval Office;
8. Now we have the usurper Barrack Hussein Obama. What is there to say about this marxist? Too much to list here.

So that's my basic take on our presidents as I've read and heard about them. I know there is much more to each, but that's how I see them.

8 posted on 09/09/2014 1:49:35 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

Yes, like you I know what he meant about JFK taking us to the brink of nuclear war, he could have worded it better.

I was not a fan of JFK but was proud of the way he stood up to Khrushchev and the USSR.


9 posted on 09/09/2014 2:18:29 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: A Navy Vet
Sorry I forgot the br tag.

6. Bill Clinton, the womanizer, did a good thing by signing welfare reform, although he kept moving the line in speeches until the Repub congress forced him to sign it, when the Repubs would fight for principles. But then he lied to the entire world, got impeached, and loss his lawyer license and became the butt of jokes world wide;

As an aside, who will be the Demorat party nominee? Hillary? I doubt she will run for the presidency. She's getting old and feeble. Think Liz Warren will be their nominee. Getting lots of press lately.

So who will be the Repub nominee?
1. Romney? Maybe, but he will lose due to the huge conservative movement.
2. Cristie? Too non-optic and liberal;
3. Jeb Bush? Please, enough of them already;
4. McConnell? Too liberal.
5. Paul Ryan? GOPe;
6. Sarah Palin? Damaged goods due to the biased media;
7. Rand Paul? Too wishy for conservatives;
8. McCain? Too old and too accommodating for his elite brothers in both parties;
9. Ted Cruz? Not certain if he's qualified, but he would be my choice!!!

So what Repub elite or conservative has the best chance to clean our White House? You guys know better than I. It's some years from now so maybe someone will appear out of nowhere like Obambi did.

Just remember, it's all about appearance and the talk that make LIV and reality show voters head to the poles. I'm okay with a good talker as long as he/she is dedicated to restoring Constitutional principles. Of course that would be Sarah Palin, but no chance in hell.

10 posted on 09/09/2014 2:19:43 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
Hey, how are you!?

Yes, I know that we had to remove or stop installation of Pershing missles as a compromise.

Not to quibble but the Pershings were 1980's missiles that Reagan put in Europe in response to the Soviet SS-20s. They backed down and removed them so we took the Pershings out.

Kennedy took the Jupiter missiles out in Turkey when Krushev "blinked" and removed the missiles from Cuba.

We also had GLCM's at Greenham Common UK and Comiso AB, Italy. Reagan really called their bluff! We took the GLCMs out when we took out the Pershings. All told, I only think we had them in theater for 4-5 years tops...

When I got to Italy in 1991 they were just closing Comiso, which was a brand new base to house the GLCMs, and we got all their refurbished "stuff" (Trucks, cars, vans, furniture, desks, computers, radar, radios, etc, etc.) at San Vito, which was some pretty nice stuff, too.

16 posted on 09/09/2014 4:42:19 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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