Posted on 09/08/2014 10:48:06 AM PDT by wagglebee
The documentary After Tiller portrayed late-term abortionists in a flattering light, highlighting the tragic stories of women who were carrying dying or disabled unborn babies. Dr. George Tiller, who the documentary is named after, was assassinated by a man who claimed to be “pro-life.” All established pro-life organizations condemned the murder, including Live Action.
But was Dr. Tiller a kind, compassionate hero who relieved women of the burden of carrying dying babies? The reality is far different.
The pro-life group Life Dynamics has a recording of a speech Dr. Tiller made to the National Abortion Federation in which he said:
We have some experience with late terminations; about 10,000 patients between 24 and 36 weeks and something like 800 fetal anomalies between 26 and 36 weeks in the past 5 years.
If only 800 out of 10,000 post-24 week abortions were done on disabled babies, then the vast majority of Tiller’s victims were perfectly healthy children.
One of the youngest premature babies ever to survive, Kenya King, was born at 21 weeks and left the hospital a healthy child. Statistics show that half of babies born at 24 weeks survive if given medical care. By 29 weeks, 92% of children survive. Tiller admitted to performing abortions at 36 weeks – nine months. At this stage, the baby would survive even without medical care.
The medical textbook Essentials of Prenatal Diagnosis by Joe Leigh Simpson, M.D. and Sherman Elias, M.D says, of abortions at or beyond 24 weeks:
The size of the conceptus at this stage in pregnancy [Post 24 weeks gestation] makes D&E technically problematic… Delivery of a fetus after 24 weeks gestation will frequently result in an infant capable of survival…
In a D&E abortion, the child is dismembered with forceps. Because many of the babies that Dr. Tiller killed were so developed, it was too difficult to dismember them. Instead, Tiller would inject the poison digoxin into the baby to kill him or her and ensure that the child would not be born alive. He induced labor and the women, one by one, delivered their dead children.
And what happened to these dead babies after they were expelled from their anesthetized mothers? A former employee of Dr. Tiller, Luhra Tivis, reveals this in her testimony:
I thought I was pro-choice and I was glad to be working in an abortion clinic. I thought I was helping provide a noble service to women in crisis….I was instructed to falsify the age of the babies in medical records. I was required to lie to the mothers over the phone, as they scheduled their appointments, and to tell them that they were not ‘too far along’ Then I had to note, in the records that Dr. Tiller’s needle had successfully pierced the walls of the baby’s heart, injecting the poison what brought death…one day, Dr. Tiller came up the stairs from the basement, where the mothers were in labor. He was carrying a large cardboard box, and ducked into the employees only area of the office so that he wouldn’t have to walk through the waiting room. He passed behind my desk as I sat working on the computer, and he turned the corner to go around a short hall. He called out for me to come and help him. the box was so big and heavy in his arms that he couldn’t get the key into the lock. So I unlocked the door for him, and, pushing the door open, I saw very clearly the gleaming metal of the crematorium- a full sized crematorium, just like the one’s used in funeral homes. I went back to my computer. I could hear Dr. Tiller firing up the gas oven. A few minutes later I could smell burning human flesh. Mine was the agony of a participant, however reluctant, in the act of prenatal infanticide.
In a scene reminiscent of Nazi Germany, Tiller loaded the bodies of dead, fully formed babies into a full sized crematorium in his clinic at the end of every day. According to pro-life demonstrators outside Tiller’s clinic, a chimney releasing the ashes of the aborted babies could often be seen smoking on top of the building.
Dr. George Tiller’s death was not justified. Killing in order to protect life is hypocrisy. One cannot preserve human life by destroying human life. But Dr. Tiller was not a hero, selflessly helping women in the direst circumstances. Whatever his motives, he destroyed healthy babies who were months, weeks, or even days from being born, much the same as the late-term abortionists who were featured in the documentary that bears his name.
I hope God has made a very special place in Hell for this murderous B@$T@RD!
Not only that, I hope he gets to see all the good people and the good contributions to mankind, he robbed the human race of.
CGato
Absolutely. Because a person values their own life, they are to be held to the same standard for others. Abortionists are serial killers. This author does not believe in justice but God is justice and His wrath against the nations is justified.
I am sure Satan welcomed him with ticker tape parades throughout Hell...
If the fetuses were alive and he killed them, wouldn’t burning the bodies all at once
be desecration of human remains, especially because they would be intermixed?
Stinker didn’t even bother to get a fume scrubber to hide the smoke and smell.
For Heaven’s Sake! If one of our cats dies, its ashes are returned to us after the
cremation, and it is OUR cat, not mixed into a bunch of other animals.
How do I know? Because the other cats try to get their buddy out of the tiny box.
When he or she doesn’t emerge, they face mark (kiss) the box and cry.
Cats have very powerful scent abilities.
Wrong. Evil was removed that day.
Agreed.
I'm sure she thinks that sounds profound. Killing to protect life is entirely justifiable.
“Vengeance is mine...”
Yup, and the guy who shot him was the tool of the Lord’s vengeance.
Nope, the left has very conveniently defined unborn babies as non-persons; therefore, he was simply burning "unhuman medical waste."
Yup. How bodies are disposed of may be unpleasant or disturbing, but the act of murder is what is evil.
The author of course was going for the Nazi analogy, hence the crematorium being highlighted.
BTW, color me somewhat skeptical. A crematorium is a major operation, requiring trained people and lots of regulations to run one. It would also be a very considerable expense. If bodies were disposed of by burning, I would expect a simpler incinerator of some type.
Don’t doubt the lady’s story, just that she may not have really understood what she saw.
“This guy was in no better standing than the headchoppers in ISIS.”
But the abortionist is not killing a reporter so it is okay. ISIS and other terrorist groups have been killing people by the thousands with only minor mention in the evening news. Then they killed a reporter and all hell breaks loose for the next several weeks.
This statement, as such, is nonsense on stilts. If it were true, there would be no such thing as justifiable homicide or honorable killing in time of war.
The rationale for these acts is precisely that they are done to protect life.
The Bible throughout talks about the land crying out to God for the blood spilled on it. It is very interesting that AFAIK it always refers to "innocent blood."
I believe under Jewish law, and in many Christian systems, it is not only permissible to take life to protect innocent life, it is a moral obligation to do so when possible.
How exactly that principle should be applied to abortion doctors in perhaps another question, but unless one is an absolute pacifist it is just stupid to make such a claim as cited above. And very few people who claim to be absolute pacifists really are.
Actually, I believe somewhere in the duetro-cannon it says that the souls of the abandoned children will be waiting in the afterlife to accuse their parents.
How much worse it will be for those who aborted.
His "death" was clearly "justified". The manner of his death was not legally justifiable, however his death was clearly morally justifiable. Sometimes morality and legality are at opposite ends. Killing unborn children is legal but a moral abomination. Technically every baby Tiller murdered was a legally justifiable act. I shed no tears when he died. I'm sure his eternity is filled with his own tears and gnashing of teeth.
killing in order to protect life is not justified?
what whack job wrote this sh1t?
lets disband police and the military then. let’s handcuff everyone as well so they can’t defend and maybe kill, their attackers.
what horsesh1t.
it’s totally unchristian as well.
the proper translation of the relevant commandment is Thou shalt not kill without just cause.
there are just causes.
and there were prophets who went after pagan priests who were sacrificing babies, all with the consent of the pagan rulers.
it’s a difference between man’s law and God’s law. man’s law diverts, and does so more and more as society pulls away from OGod.
He was assisted by a corrupt church too, the ELCA. How could the pastor give him communion week after week knowing what he did for a living? The ELCA is sick.
So as a child, Tiller said “When I grow up I want to abort babies and in my office, among other things, have a full size crematorium in order to burn them after I’ve aborted them.”
Somewhere in that persons life something went terribly wrong.
no doubt
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