Posted on 09/07/2014 7:21:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
I hear you, but that stance makes me thankful for regicide.
What’s killing Reggie got to do with this?
Now just a bleepin' second...
There were two periods of hard times for CKE corporation, one in the 80’s while Carl Karcher still had some influence and one in the late 1990s well after Carl had no say in the company’s daily operation.
In 1999 CKE stock fell from 40 to 9 as a result of problems from new management’s acquisition of the Hardee’s chain. Carl was 86 when he left his ceremonial position on the BoD.
The Karcher’s were absolutely wonderful people. It was a shame that they couldn’t keep the Business in the Family like the owners of In and Out have (so far).
It has to be said that if they were still running the Company, you would not see the kind of Advertising we see today. Of that I have no doubt. As I recall the Family was none too pleased with the tone of its Advertising many years ago.
The rub is that it works for the current incarnation of Carl’s Jr. in a very competitive marketplace. Even in S. CA, In and Out Burger is doing more advertising that I have ever noticed before.
All these guys are fighting for every dollar of revenue. I know some people in Management of a large CJ Franchise Group. With Government meddling, Taxation and the requirements that Obamacare has forced on them, they had to reinvent their entire Business Model to stay competitive.
I generally don't do things with crappy sauces, but I tried it and it was like, well... like crack. It got to the point that I would go get just 2 orders of the fries with extra bleu cheese crumbles (they obliged my request), a salad, and an unsweetened iced tea... and just skip the sammich.
My brother lived in the San Fernando Valley briefly about 10-15 years ago... when I would visit, I was blown away by the competition in the burgerjoint industry out there. I mean with Carl’s Jr., In-n-Out, Foster’s Freeze, and Tommyburger (to a degree), I had no idea why ANYONE would step foot in a Burger King, McDonald’s, or Jack-in-the-Box.
Being in the Northeast... all we had was BK, McD’s and Wendy’s... a rare White Castle here and there... oh and Checkers... but out of those choices none approached what was available in Southern California... but still, paled in comparision.
I fondly recall my brother flying home for the holidays... and one time brought a box of In-n-Out double-doubles for me... I didn’t care that they were cold and the bread soggy. I could not get them in NJ.
Do these possibly proud daughters of Zion read fashion magazines? Those objectify women more insidiously than most things aimed through the mass media at a male demographic.
Nothing, unless that’s your name.
Nothing, unless that’s your name.
I’ve often wondered why Carl took the company public. I suspect that it might have had something to do with parceling out assets to his many children and grandchildren but that’s just a guess. I’m sure that in hindsight he wished that he hadn’t done it.
You’re right that the competition in SoCal is fierce and In-N-Out does its share of advertising but I doubt that it has to pay anything near what Carl’s must pay for its spots. And In-N-Out still benefits from word of mouth like Carl’s used to. Carl’s wouldn’t be feeling as much pressure from the also rans if it had kept its quality.
It’s a decent product, but at one time it was great. To keep it family owned it would have had to remain a smaller firm or at least have grown more slowly. There’s a number of very small chains in Orange County that turn out good hamburgers. Filling the niche. May they remain small!
Is there not a more influential group you could talk about? You complain that they are firing at the wrong target. But aren't you doing the same?
Odd reasoning for anybody. But that seems to be the meem now days. If don't want to send your children to public schools you are a science denying recluse who wants to burn witches.
Believe in holiness and purity? You want women to wear burkas.
Think that animals should be treated decently? You are a vegan bunny hugger.
Don't think a bunch of your neighbors should be shooting off their guns into the air in a densely populated neighborhood? You gun grabber!
Yes, this is pretty pathetic as an example of reasoning. Yet, he seems perfectly comfortable with asserting that these commercials are GOOD ... not just “shouldn’t be illegal,” but GOOD, as in “nobody should object.”
I wonder what he would write if the people getting sexually involved in car washing in a commercial were men? “Islam is bad, and Islam condemns homosexuality,” so men having orgasms about cars and each other is GOOD?
Once she decided Carl’s Jr. wasn’t good anymore, my mother liked Whataburger. It was originally a Texas chain, or at least that’s where we encountered it, but it got to Oklahoma in the 90s.
I agree, this article is pathetic and the idea that you cannot object to both Islam and bad commercials is ridiculous
Unless the author is engaging in transports of irony far beyond my experience - and I’ve been through FIVE teenagers so far - he thinks soft porn is a positive good. I’ve had little patience for Doug Giles since he advocated homosexual rape for juvenile offenders.
Maybe there’s a dig at the LDS faith here, I don’t know. To me, it would make no difference whether the young ladies protesting the ads were Mormon, Catholic, Baptist, or Orthodox Jewish. The concept of reserving intimacy for those who demonstrate they deserve it transcends many religious disagreements.
I agree why is he focusing on Mormon females? A lot of people are going to find those ads distasteful. And, again, you can oppose the ads AND Islam at the same time.
“mass media” reaches a much bigger and younger audience than a magazine
I guess it just happens that there are Mormon young ladies promoting a boycott of Carl’s Jr., and not others that the author noticed.
I worked as a temp for an advertising company that was shopping a commercial to Carl’s Jr., and it was perfectly clean. It had to do with ballet dancers. I remember seeing it on TV, long after I was finished the temp job.
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