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To: DTA
The Soviets couldn't hold East Germany. There was no agreement that they leave. Their economy and political system was in full melt down and the Germans took their advantage and booted them. They where in no position economically, militarily, or had the moral to launch an Hungarian style invasion or take over of East Germany. They knew it and so did Bush who slyly NEVER gloated over any losses of the Soviets.

Once the Soviets collapsed, the NATO powers had every right and every interest in insulating Eastern Europe from of the Worlds worst bad actors. Soviet Russia managed to slaughter tens of million of it's own people along with 7,000,000 million Ukrainians in 1937 alone. They did so in full view of the World. They slaughtered in the Gulags at a rate higher than that of Nazi Germany in the concentration Camps. They just happened to continue for three more decades.

Our ability to increase NATO to the borders of Russia, even to the point of the entire break up of that immoral and evil country was more than justified. Had we had legitimate and competent leadership in the nineties, Russia would be the new Germany, South Korea or Japan. The electorate chose to reward the Democrats for their decades of loosing philosophy because they thought George Bush was an elitist and didn't know what a scanner was.

The fact is that there is and was noting but Russia stopping Russia from becoming a true Democratic and legitimate power. The reality is that the Russian Psyche has yet to recover from centuries of oppression and decades of brutal Soviet rule. They simply changed the uniforms from NKVD Soviet to Thug. Putin is a thug. He wants money and power and to Hell with the rest of the World.

36 posted on 09/05/2014 8:09:42 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
>>>>>They slaughtered in the Gulags at a rate higher than that of Nazi Germany in the concentration Camps<<<<<

The lead editors of the Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, 1933–1945 of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Geoffrey Megargee and Martin Dean, cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, operating from 1933 to 1945. They estimate that 15 million to 20 million people died or were imprisoned in the sites

According to Nazi SS records, there were more than 700,000 prisoners registered in the concentration camps in January 1945.

That means that Nazis murdered more than 14 million people in camps and ghettos..

Nazi Germany lasted 12 years. Soviet Empire lasted 72, six times longer. To have gulags having higher murder rate than Nazi camps, Communists had to murder more than 85 million people.

In Gulags Communists murdered around 40 million people. Even with a margin for error it is safe to say Nazi Germany was the champion in mass murder.

To claim Communist murder rate is higher rate than that of Nazi Germany in the concentration Camps means only one thing: diminishing the number of deaths in Nazi concentration camps.

Soviet Union was one of the most heinous regimes of history, but it does not give you the right to diminish the most heinous one, Nazi Germany.

You have your right to opinion,but you have no right to diminish Nazi crimes.

Even if they "now too Have God on their side".

39 posted on 09/05/2014 9:10:29 AM PDT by DTA
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