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To: SoConPubbie
The links clear up the 2 million number but they don't clear anything else up. I said 2 times in my post that I disagree with the plan and wouldn't support it. I think it is a bad idea on 4 fronts.

1.) It incentivizes more illegals to come with the hope that they too will be "normalized" at some point in the future.
2.) It does not punish anyone for breaking the law.
3.) It creates a new type of citizen who has full rights to live and work here but who either a.) doesn't pay taxes or b.) is taxed without representation.
4.) It doesn't require a way to permanently secure the border.

With all of that being said, I ask again, can you name another plan put forward by a national politician that is better than Paul's plan? Would you agree that his plan is better than Ryan's plan, Pence's plan and the Gang of Eight plan? It is the best detailed plan that has been put forward.

They are working with political realities and while we all wish politician could all be like Ted Cruz, they aren't. A lot of them are spineless tools of special interests and to get any plan passed you need their support.

I am not going to write Paul off because of an immigration plan that sucks but happens to be the best one that I have heard proposed by a national figure.

Abortion - check
Guns - check
Size and scope of government - check
Faith in the constitution- check
Understanding the relationship of free markets to prosperity - check

Those are the five biggies for me. He and Cruz are the only two I feel score perfect 10s on these issues.

The next several topics... Immigration, Defense, the Balkanization of America, etc...clearly push Cruz over the top and he will get my support but Paul is the next best thing.

62 posted on 09/05/2014 10:42:04 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: nitzy
With all of that being said, I ask again, can you name another plan put forward by a national politician that is better than Paul's plan? Would you agree that his plan is better than Ryan's plan, Pence's plan and the Gang of Eight plan? It is the best detailed plan that has been put forward.

Just because it is marginally better than the other Amnesty plans does not mean it is a worthwhile plan nor does it mean that Rand Paul should be congratulated for it.

At it's core, because it does nothing but rewards the evil actions of those who have illegally come here, it is in and of itself, evil.
63 posted on 09/05/2014 10:50:36 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: nitzy
Abortion - check

Sorry, but Rand Paul fails on Abortion as well as all the other Social Issues.

He has explicitly stated since he has signaled his desire to run for POTUS, that the Social Issues have to be de-emphasized or put on the back burner.
64 posted on 09/05/2014 10:52:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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