Posted on 09/01/2014 8:04:33 AM PDT by Hojczyk
Russia would have triumphed over the world order imposed by the West after the Soviet Union lost the Cold War. This would mean the destruction of American geopolitical deterrence. Americas enemies, from China to Iran, would see this as an invitation to establish their own spheres of influence amid the wreckage.
Russia would not stop there. Mr. Putin wants to undermine NATO, and the smell of weakness would tempt him further. It would be merely a matter of time before Moscow exploited the Russians in the Baltic States to manufacture new frozen conflicts. Poland would feel compelled to act as though NATO did not exist, creating a defensive military alliance of its own with the Baltics; it might even establish a buffer zone in western Ukraine.
There is no easy way out now. But we must not let thousands of Ukrainians die because we dithered. We must be honest with them if we are not willing to fight a new Cold War with Russia over Ukrainians independence. But if we force Ukraine to surrender, rather than sacrifice lives in a fight for which we have no stomach, then we must accept that it is a surrender, too, for NATO, for Europe and liberal democracy, and for American global leadership. That is the choice before us.
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History IS, when NATO bomb the HELL out of Yugoslavia it created the muzzies to overrun the whole Europe soon to be Eurasia. They are producing new babies in the speed of rabbits. And be assured it’s coming here too soon with Putt King and his Kenya administration at the helm. And they are NOT going away!!!
“I guess you gave up your first pro-Russia, surrender monkey strategy.”
I guess Reagan and the other presidents during the Cold War were also pro-Russia, since they would incite World War 3 either.
Like I said yesterday, until now I never believed that our side wanted to start World War 3 (and yes, sorry, that is the ONLY WAY to stop Putin in Ukraine), but I guess I may have been wrong...at least regarding some people on this site.
Not either the illegal war in Libya!!!
What do You think NATO’s purpose is, and why do you think nations like Finland and Sweden are discussing joining after these Russian invasions?
What nonsense, no one started WWIII because the USSR backed down and broke up in the face of Reagan’s aggressive global actions against them.
No one is starting WWIII right now, unless you think that your man Putin is on a suicide mission and is going to nuke the nuclear powers of NATO.
Have you ever been in the military? What branch was it?
This is just a little reminder for people at sleep or drinking the Kool-Aid. Time to wake up to reality!!!
http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/rockefeller-nwo.jpg?w=620
Is Ukraine a member of NATO, are Sweden/Finland???
Yes the Obama appeasement strategy.
I will patiently point out to you that the Putt King is on the side of no arms for Ukraine.
“What nonsense, no one started WWIII because the USSR backed down and broke up in the face of Reagans aggressive global actions against them.”
Except that your IDIOT POLICY would have gotten us into WW3 in 1956 (Hungary) and 1968 (Czechoslovakia), LONG BEFORE Reagan showed up.
Fortunately there were ADULTS running the country.
As to your military background, if you have NO CLUE as to what you’re talking about (thinking we can fight the Russians on their territory without going to war with them), then I am not very impressed at all with our military and I’m even MORE SCARED for this country if we ever try using it in a major confrontation.
I’ve run into a lot of people on this site that think their profession makes them some kind of overreaching visionary. In ALMOST EVERY CASE, they are incredibly arrogant and look down at EVERYONE that doesn’t share their background...
Have you noticed WHAT's going on in the Middle East???
I think his more occupied with putting and same “Sex” sex up stairs than dealing with Ukraine!!!
To the arm-chair Generals: Hitler tried it and was advancing to Kiev, yet failed, but that was before the drones time!!!
I think his more occupied with putting and same Sex sex up stairs than dealing with Ukraine!!!
I think Obama, who hates US 1980's foreign policy, is being more flexible toward his anti American, anti freedom loving comrade, Putin.
As I said, the Putt King is on the side of no arms for Ukraine.
You aren’t an “armchair general”?
Did you serve in NATO from the old country, or from this one?
Do we feel sorry for the Ukrainians or is it because of our unwarranted programmed hatred of Russians?
IMO we shouldn't spend a dime or precious time on the conflict. We have much bigger problems to contend with for which we'll need Russians help.
The world needs the new Russia now more than ever as one the last bastions promoting family, marriage, Christianity and conservative values.
Do you remember what he whispered to Medvedev???
The Serbs were the good guys, and we helped the Muslims. Go figure.
What r ramblings and sudden switches to different approaches, but what “idiot policy” of mine are you talking about?
You are raving all kinds of nonsense, and who has mentioned anything about “ (thinking we can fight the Russians on their territory without going to war with them)” not only has no one said such a thing, it doesn’t even make any sense.
While you say you aren’t impressed with our military, you also seem to be saying that you have never been in the military yourself, yet earlier you were telling us how the Ukraine army would be unable to use our weapons, as though you had experience with weapons like mortars and artillery and knew something about the nuts and bolts of using weapons.
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