Posted on 08/31/2014 4:31:13 AM PDT by goldstategop
President Putin has called for talks to discuss "statehood" for eastern Ukraine, Russian media report.
He said the issue needed to be discussed to ensure the interests of local people "are definitely upheld".
His comments came after the EU gave Russian a one-week ultimatum to reverse course in Ukraine or face sanctions.
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You would have joined the Warsaw pact it sounds like
If he does start WWIII, it will be Vlad and China against America and the Sunni Muslims. Nice allies, but I guess beggars can’t be choosy.
Okay, and why?
More likely we will be fighting the Axis of all 3 of those
Cold War over -> NATO no longer needed.
Since Russia and Iran have just signed a pact to go around sanctions, maybe you should rethink that
The cold war is not over if you are paying attention, or maybe now its a hot war?
Note: these are not the radical Sunnis that slice people's heads off.
So why is Putin making pacts with Iran?
Money. Plus Iran is Shiite.
If it isn't over it only exists in Ukraine and couple of who-cares Baltic countries. The important part that is over is that US cities are no longer on hair-trigger targets by Russian nukes.
You keep trying to tie us with the Muslims. Putin has built his own Islamic caliphate in Chechnya using his puppet Kadyrov who is currently bringing in Sharia law while naming parts of cities after Putin and providing him 99 percent of the vote in Soviet-style elections. Chechens are also being used in the conflict against Ukraine to kill Ukrainians. There are videos of them on Russian tanks saying "Allahu Akbar." There are pictures and videos of them riding into Ukraine. There are pictures of Chechens torturing Ukrainian POWs. These are Muslim invaders supposedly fighting as "rebels" against the evil "Ukrainian fascist Junta."
Russia is not an enemy of Islam, they see Islam as a tool, always have since the days of the KGB. The Russians actively use Russian trained Imams to subvert the Muslims to use them against us. Anti-American and Anti-Israel propaganda aimed at the Muslim world has its origins in Moscow. It is also highly possible that Al-Qaeda itself was an operation of the KGB/FSB, as Alexander Litvinenko, the former FSB member who was poisoned using Polonium 210, alleged before his death that Al-Qaeda's number two had been trained in a FSB camp.
Russia is no savior against Islam and no enemy of Islam, but is a manipulator of Islam against us.
This is not about Ukraine. Mad Vlad has made it clear he does not have respect for the sovereignty of any of those countries over there.
Cold War not over <- NATO still needed.
I would agree with the second use since Russia became a mortal enemy after WWII, except for the following two reasons: I don't want WWIII and I don't like Sunni Muslims.
Us?
The power of NATO is that it is a counter, by its mere existence, to Russian aggression against any of its members. Whether or not it has been wisely used against other forces is irrelevant to the protection it offers against totalitarian regimes armed with nuclear weapons.
I don't want WWIII and I don't like Sunni Muslims.
The Kurds have both Sunnis and Shias among them and yet are the most Pro-American group of any in Iraq, actually being the one place in Iraq where our soldiers could travel without weapons and dine in peace. Kurds, in general, love the United States and thank us for liberating them. Just saying you don't like "Sunni Muslims" has no meaning, and I think is just your attempt to denigrate NATO as terrorist supporters so you can claim that it does no good.
The Kurds are the tolerant variety of Sunni. But the Albanian Sunni did not seem to be so tolerant when they were blowing up 1000 year old Serbian churches. Left to their own devices the various Sunni groups would evolve into a new Ottoman empire including all of Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and part of SW Russia. That would be much worse than any alternative I can imagine.
Then you cannot support the dissolution of NATO, as without NATO, deterrence is destroyed or significantly lessened, since what was once united is divided and can now be conquered and subverted much more easily without guarantee that anyone will come to their aid. But you are wrong when you say they are sane, because totalitarians are never sane, but are always the makers of insanity, albeit they might use a sane strategy to perform their crimes.
The Kurds are the tolerant variety of Sunni.
Then you cannot say that you dislike or hate Sunnis, since you must recognize that there are different varieties of Muslim, some Pro-American, some our mortal enemies.
That would be much worse than any alternative I can imagine.
There is an alternative: Domination by Moscow and the mindless horror that the red brute brings with him.
Pro-American when it is convenient for them, but easily radicalized or defeated by radicals.
There is an alternative: Domination by Moscow and the mindless horror that the red brute brings with him.
Not any more. Wake me up for Hungary, meanwhile I think I will take a nap.
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