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Russia effectively at war with EU: Lithuanian president
Reuters ^ | Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:03am EDT | Reuters

Posted on 08/30/2014 7:51:44 AM PDT by WhiskeyX

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To: WhiskeyX
Why would Russia want to join NATO and start taking orders from the US? Russia is much the wiser to defend itself than to rely on NATO. It would never survive. Consider public opinion and reading all the stuck in the mud Russia bashing being posted on FR and world wide.

They don't deserve it. They left east Europe,dumped communism, became a democracy only to have a country on it's border having yearly Nazi parades.

The politicians in Brussels destroyed Yugoslavia which was taking on their Islamists. What did Milosevic ever do to us, to die a prisoner for taking on the Islamists in his country?

The hoops you have to jump through to join NATO, like embracing homosexuality, same sex marriage and other anti conservative values. The ideology of the west is headed the wrong way. I see Russia as a balance to it all.

21 posted on 08/30/2014 9:38:14 AM PDT by duckln
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To: duckln
They left east Europe,dumped communism, became a democracy only to have a country on it's border having yearly Nazi parades.

Would you happen to have a list of 5 ways Nazis are different from and worse than Commies?

Thanks, 'cause I can't think of one.

22 posted on 08/30/2014 10:20:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I don't accept the premise of your question. Russia today is not a bunch of commies. Hasn’t been for 30 years, where have you been?
23 posted on 08/30/2014 10:37:58 AM PDT by duckln
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To: WhiskeyX

So now Tsar Putin has a choice to make. The whole world now sees Russia as an aggressor, when formerly they thought Russia was trying to improve itself.

He has to decide whether or not he thinks the old Soviet days were better days


24 posted on 08/30/2014 10:39:36 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: duckln

Russia would leave them alone the same way they left Georgia and Ukraine alone and threatening to leave Kazakhstan alone.

If they leave NATO, they are going to be Russian vassals immediately


25 posted on 08/30/2014 10:42:03 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: duckln

Seriously, what happens between Ukraine and Russia isn’t our business. Let the wonderful EU handle it since they’re so great. We should keep our noses out of it.


26 posted on 08/30/2014 10:42:45 AM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: duckln

belligerant NATO?

How many countries is NATO invading right now?


27 posted on 08/30/2014 10:43:21 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 1rudeboy

I think Putin and Obama are in cahoots personally


28 posted on 08/30/2014 10:45:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: duckln

Russia is not “defending” itself when it invades sovereign countries


29 posted on 08/30/2014 10:45:47 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

“How many countries is NATO invading right now?”

Uh ... Ukraine?


30 posted on 08/30/2014 10:45:53 AM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: duckln

Government owned industries, government owned media and a dictator-like strongman ruler....

yeah, not commies... lol


31 posted on 08/30/2014 10:46:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: WhiskeyX

Well Lithuanian Latvia and Estonia are full of Fascists too...
/ s


32 posted on 08/30/2014 10:47:32 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: duckln; Toddsterpatriot
Russia today is not a bunch of commies. Hasn’t been for 30 years, where have you been?

One word of advice about the Borscht Brigade, Todd. They don't care for the truth.

There is a familiar solution to this, too. A few days ago, Alexander Dugin, an extreme nationalist whose views have helped shape those of the Russian president, issued an extraordinary statement. “Ukraine must be cleansed of idiots,” he wrote—and then called for the “genocide” of the “race of bastards.”

Source


33 posted on 08/30/2014 10:49:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RaveOn

With what, diplomats? Shut up.


34 posted on 08/30/2014 10:51:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RaveOn

NATO has invaded Ukraine? lolz


35 posted on 08/30/2014 10:52:42 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 1rudeboy

Kazakhstan now considering leaving the Eurasian Union because of Putin’s threats.


36 posted on 08/30/2014 10:54:20 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 1rudeboy

“With what, diplomats? Shut up.”

Shut up, he explained. Classic! You are obviously an expert on diplomacy.

You’re also a naieve fool if you don’t think Kiev is already overflowing with NATO military advisors and Academy / Xi / Blackwater mercenaries.


37 posted on 08/30/2014 10:57:22 AM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: Logical me
“Putin has started WWIII and this little punk thinks Russia will survive.”

Russia's current leadership is more likely to survive than a nation of morons electing an apostate Muslim (Indonesian Sunni denomination)to occupy the WH.

Amazes me that some folks on this site think that Putin is more incompetent then your typical Obama/DemocRAT voter!

38 posted on 08/30/2014 10:59:48 AM PDT by texican01
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To: duckln
Russia today is not a bunch of commies.

Why do you assume I was talking about Russians? Hmmmm.

Be sure to ping me when you come up with your list of 5. Thanks!

39 posted on 08/30/2014 11:01:41 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: RaveOn
I heard that George Soros was spotted piloting a APC during the Independence Day parade in Kiev.

The Blackwater mercenaries are just there for show, and to distract diplomatic "experts" such as yourself from the Monasanto Imperial Guard.

40 posted on 08/30/2014 11:02:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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