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Can an Upstart College With no Frills and no Football Challenge the Elites?
Townhall.com ^ | August 29, 2014 | Suzanne Fields

Posted on 08/29/2014 10:33:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/29/2014 10:33:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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“We don’t necessarily know how to teach you to be a better orthodontist or a better tax accountant,” Mr. Nelson tells the daily London Independent. “We innovate in teaching you how to think, how to be creative, how to communicate effectively — and how to lead.”


Teach them a trade. We’ve already got enough opinionated political science majors dumped on us.


2 posted on 08/29/2014 10:46:57 AM PDT by boycott
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"Minerva expects to eventually open campuses in London, Berlin, New York City, Buenos Aires, Mumbai (it used to be called Bombay) and Hong Kong."

I don't think there will EVER be a "Mumbai Bicycle Club".

3 posted on 08/29/2014 11:03:17 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Learning a trade is wonderful and more should probably go that route, but I believe there remains a place for a liberal arts education. So I say teach them not what to think, but how to think.


4 posted on 08/29/2014 11:03:20 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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I don't think there's gonna be a "Myanmar Shave", either.

5 posted on 08/29/2014 11:04:34 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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“Tax accountant” shouldn’t even be a profession, because tax law should be simple enough for anyone to understand and comply. Orthodontists, on the other hand, do something socially useful. So do HVAC technicians.


6 posted on 08/29/2014 11:12:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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Teach them a trade. We’ve already got enough opinionated political science majors dumped on us.

i disagree... i am not sending my kids to college to learn a trade... they can do that outside of college... in fact, instead of sending students to college to learn a trade, they ought to have more "trade schools" or apprenticeships... college should be for the deep thinkers, learners... like it was when Thomas Jefferson studied... and it should not be so easy for anybody and everybody to get in... from the beginning of our boys' academic lives, we have aimed to teach them how to think--not what to think... i want their college years to continue in that vain where they take what they think and begin to demonstrate it, communicate it through speaking and writing... continue to discover it in their science and logic studies...

some of the Founding Fathers were classically educated, and were also very hands-on, physical men who could farm and ranch... hunt and build... that is what i want for my boys... i want them to be men who can do constructive things with their hands (a trade), and who can not only read a law and understand it, but have the skill to write one... we want them to be what is considered the whole man... cultivating their hands, minds and spirits...

our hope is they are free thinkers and lifelong learners...

7 posted on 08/29/2014 11:17:01 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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“We’ve already got enough opinionated political science majors dumped on us.”

Maybe, but most of them were never taught to think critically. If they can teach that, it’s more valuable than any professional training.


8 posted on 08/29/2014 11:24:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Our Founders were taught how to think and the high point of their education was their training in moral philosophy. They were taught that virtue was the highest aspiration of their soul.

Today's education, for the most part, either ignores the soul or works to deprave it.

9 posted on 08/29/2014 11:40:10 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Studying liberal arts and learning a trade are BOTH worthy endeavors. What is a waste of time and money is the hybrid: majoring in, say, “Criminal Justice”.


10 posted on 08/29/2014 11:47:57 AM PDT by utahagen
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To deny liberals arts is to deny Western Civilization, which has been the goal of academia since the 1950s.


11 posted on 08/29/2014 11:51:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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There are a ton of small Christian colleges that make Hillsdale look huge. Christendom College has something like 400 students.


12 posted on 08/29/2014 11:52:50 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Well how about this ....... we don’t send everyone with a pulse that barely finished high school to a four year college on federal grants and loans.

I believe maybe 25% - 40% of those going to a four year college should be going.

We’ve got way too many 25 - 26 year olds that have never really worked a day in their lives. They’re 25- 26 and have no experience. That’s one of the reasons we had so many illegals come over here. They were willing to work.

Again, college isn’t for everyone.


13 posted on 08/29/2014 12:42:13 PM PDT by boycott
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bump for later reading


14 posted on 08/29/2014 1:15:16 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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This could get interesting, if allowed. Dismantle the teacher tenure system would be a good start.


15 posted on 08/29/2014 3:15:04 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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Or, a “Mumbai Gin?”


16 posted on 08/29/2014 6:32:21 PM PDT by Taxman (I am mad as Hell and I am not going to take it any more!)
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Liberal arts is the only education, all the rest is job training. Unfortunately we are turning out college graduates with a major in history who can’t name the right decade for the start of the American civil war, have never heard of the Magna Charta or the battle of Hastings and have a hard time naming the country we revolted against to create the USA. They think “seven hundred percent less” makes as much sense as “seven hundred percent more” and they don’t know to from two or too. They can use there, their and they’re all in one long sentence and use each one incorrectly. Often they can listen to a political speech filled with nothing but pure nonsense and call it great oratory. There is very little educating going on but there are huge numbers of degrees being handed out. Some of those degrees cost a lot more than my father earned in his entire working lifetime and produce a graduate with less real education than he had as an eighth grade dropout. If we have as I fear a real SHTF situation about to erupt most of them will be about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. I am trying to make friends with some old rednecks who still know how to do something worthwhile like catching a catfish.


17 posted on 08/29/2014 6:35:35 PM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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so true

and the only jobs they seem to find are schools, government, politics and the media.


18 posted on 08/29/2014 6:39:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Often they can listen to a political speech filled with nothing but pure nonsense and call it great oratory.

Thus, the results of the 2008 & 2012 Presidential election.

They can use there, their and they’re all in one long sentence and use each one incorrectly.

I've considered becoming an adjunct at the local community college but I haven't pondered all the way through what I'd do if confronted by multiple papers to grade with such egregious grammar and usage. My blood pressure should probably be my first consideration.

19 posted on 08/30/2014 3:24:32 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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Our Founders were taught how to think and the high point of their education was their training in moral philosophy. They were taught that virtue was the highest aspiration of their soul. Today's education, for the most part, either ignores the soul or works to deprave it.

yes--James Madison, James Monroe and Thomas Jefferson were among those classically educated... they read the Greeks and Romans... studied Latin and Greek... logic and rhetoric... geometry, mathematics... all the things we are striving give our boy--along with a biblical upbringing as their foundation--before they go to college...

because of their classical education, our Founding Fathers were able to conceive of our United States of America...

20 posted on 08/30/2014 3:36:22 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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