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Shanghai to San Francisco in 100 minutes by Chinese supersonic submarine
South China Morning Post ^ | Sunday, 24 August, 2014 | Stephen Chen

Posted on 08/24/2014 6:00:06 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: sukhoi-30mki

Rather than create an air bubble in the water through which to travel, why not just travel through the air ala an aircraft?


21 posted on 08/24/2014 6:41:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: drbuzzard

I think you nailed it here. The first practical use is as a weapon. If it’s already being spoken of in a civilian type application, how far along is the weapon?


22 posted on 08/24/2014 6:42:55 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Will88

Years ago I worked temporary for a short time at a company that had R&D facilities in China. They had many precautions to keep someone like me from stealing their trade secrets. I recall the irony thinking that their secrets were probably already for sale by corrupt Chinese officials.


23 posted on 08/24/2014 6:47:08 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I think they are on to something.....my farts in the bathtub are super cavatating


24 posted on 08/24/2014 6:48:20 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: drbuzzard

The Russians have had torpedoes based on this tech for years.


25 posted on 08/24/2014 7:01:24 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: fso301

I don’t know about that. I’m not sure I can get a non classified answer here, but how close can you pin down a passive sonar signal at 100 miles? I cannot imagine it is good enough for a targeting solution.

Of course on the converse, I cannot see how a torpedo in a curtain of bubbles will be able to detect anything outside for guidance, and there’s no way you are going to have a tethered torpedo at this speed or range.

Guidance overall could be the limiting issue for how serious a threat this really is. Perhaps that limitation is why they have even brought it into daylight. Could be they have already determined that the military uses are impractical.

There’s a lot of interesting questions surrounding this tech.


26 posted on 08/24/2014 7:06:49 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: dinodino

Are they guided though? The article implies that the ability to actually maneuver is a brand new update in the tech.


27 posted on 08/24/2014 7:07:53 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: drbuzzard

Yes, the Russian torpedoes are guided.


28 posted on 08/24/2014 7:09:38 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino
The Russians have had torpedoes based on this tech for years.

And pretty much useless for craft large enough for passenger transport. They would be better off building flying boat hydrofoil tech.
29 posted on 08/24/2014 7:13:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
It would be like hitting a moose doing 90 mph.

I don't think a moose can go that fast.

30 posted on 08/24/2014 7:17:00 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: drbuzzard
I don’t know about that. I’m not sure I can get a non classified answer here, but how close can you pin down a passive sonar signal at 100 miles? I cannot imagine it is good enough for a targeting solution.

At 100 miles, you'll probably have to send an anti-submarine rocket and/or ASW helo out after it. In fair seas I imagine the wake created by such supercavitating object will be very prominent and guide the pilot straight to it's source.

31 posted on 08/24/2014 7:18:27 AM PDT by fso301
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The bad news is that it is theoretically possible if you can pack enough propellant on a sub and still have room for crew or payload. The good news is that it would be a cinch to find... The soviets tried super cavitation torpedoes in the ‘80s but they proved impractical. It sounds scary though.


32 posted on 08/24/2014 7:18:28 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: cripplecreek

Great for torpedoes, though


33 posted on 08/24/2014 7:19:07 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Vaquero

I actually own one of these.

34 posted on 08/24/2014 7:21:16 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Jeff Head

Ping! To a submarine thread. This should sound familiar to you.


35 posted on 08/24/2014 7:24:09 AM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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To: dinodino

Cavitation torpedoes are nothing new.


36 posted on 08/24/2014 7:25:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: P.O.E.

You own a tripod?


37 posted on 08/24/2014 7:32:58 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A supersonic airplane has a smooth deceleration to subsonic then to landing speed. I imagine the transition from supersonic to full stop in a submarine would be severe. As soon as you lose the supercavitation effect, that water is gonna catch hold and slow you down in a hurry.


38 posted on 08/24/2014 7:33:15 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: sukhoi-30mki
constantly "shower" a special liquid membrane on its own surface.

Sounds like typical planet-killing Chicom pollution.

39 posted on 08/24/2014 7:34:16 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, I know—see post 25.


40 posted on 08/24/2014 7:40:55 AM PDT by dinodino
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