Posted on 08/23/2014 5:27:58 PM PDT by markomalley
Obama as yet again come to the side of Islam and defended the religion, saying that ISIS does not represent true Islam. Obama said:
So ISIL speaks for no religion. Their victims are overwhelmingly Muslim, and no faith teaches people to massacre innocents. No just God would stand for what they did yesterday, and for what they do every single day.
For those of you who may stupidly believe Obama, I would like to present true Islam to the president, and illustrate that it is not just of the same violent nature, but in many ways worse than ISIS.
As we wrote in a former article, ISIS believes in the ritual of human sacrifice, where they shed the blood of their victims with the belief that it will appease Allah. In one instance an ISIS fighter slaughtered a number of Iraqi soldiers, and before killing them, said this prayer:
In defense of the Sunnis O Lord, O Lord, We bring these offerings to you, O Lord. Please accept this sacrificial offering, O Lord. O Lord, accept this from us, accept this from us. In the name of Allah. Bismillah (In the name of Allah). Allahu Akbar
ISIS is simply following the Islamic belief in human sacrifice as it was illustrated by the Islamic figure, Khalid Abdullah al-Kasri, who ritually sacrificed Jaad bin Durham in the place of an animal on the Islamic holiday of The Festival of Sacrifice. He dragged Durham into a mosque, and before spilling his blood, proclaimed:
O people, sacrifice, Allah accepted your sacrifices. I am now sacrificing Jaad bin Durham.
Tell me, Obama, does al-Kasri misrepresent true Islam? Or what about all of the Islamic authorities, Al-Shafi’, Ibin Tayymiya, Bukhari, Dhahabi, Ibin Al-Qiyam, Darami and Ibin Katheer, who accept the story as orthodox?
One of the greatest figures in Islamic history is the great Mamluk warlord, Baibars, who is most famously known for defeating the Mongols. Baibars butchered and tyrannized the entire Christian population of Antioch, slaughtering priests, selling women, destroying crosses and churches, ripping up Bibles, and feeling very proud about doing such evil. Tell me, Obama, did Baibars, who is praised by the entire Muslim world as a hero, misrepresent true Islam when he, with great boasting, wrote these words to the Christian leader of Antioch, Bohemond VI, of his bloodshed:
Death came among the besieged from all sides and by all roads: we killed all that thou hadst appointed to guard the city or defend its approaches. If thou hadst seen thy knights trampled under the feet of the horses, thy provinces given up to pillage, thy riches distributed by measures full, the wives of thy subjects put to public sale; if thou hadst seen the pulpits and crosses overturned, the leaves of the Gospel torn and cast to the winds, and the sepulchres of thy patriarchs profaned; if thou hadst seen thy enemies, the Muslims, trampling upon the tabernacle, and immolating in the sanctuary, monk, priest and deacon; in short, if thou hadst seen thy palaces given up to the flames, the dead devoured by the fire of this world, the Church of St Paul and that of St Peter completely and entirely destroyed, certainly thou wouldst have cried out “Would to Heaven that I were become dust!”
Today ISIS desecrates churches, slaughters Christians, sells Christian women, destroys Christian images and crosses, and invades Christian areas. Tell me, Obama, how they are different from the Muslims of the past.
Was Zyad bin Haritha, one of the closest companions to Muhammad, misrepresenting Islam when he took Umm, an old woman, and split her body in two by tying her to two moving camels? As the Hadith witnesses:
Allah’s Messenger sent Zayd to Wadi Qura, where he encountered the Banu Fazarah. Some of his Companions were killed, and Zayd was carried away wounded. Ward was slain by the Banu Badr. When Zayd returned, he vowed that no washing should touch his head until he had raided the Fazarah. After he recovered, Muhammad sent him with an army against the Fazarah settlement. He met them in Qura and inflicted casualties on them and took Umm Qirfah prisoner. He also took one of Umm’s daughters and Abdallah bin Mas’adah prisoner. Zyad bin Harithah ordered Qays to kill Umm, and he killed her cruelly. He tied each of her legs with a rope and tied the ropes to two camels, and they split her in two. (Tabari Vol.8:Page.96)
By this account, ISIS was completely in accordance with Islam when they took a young Christian boy in Baghdad in cut his body in half, just not so long ago.
Jihadists in have participated the drinking of Christian blood, but how is this so different from what Muhammad did, when he taught his followers to drink his blood in order to obtain salvation.
Malik ibn Sinan drank his [Muhammad's] blood on the Day of Uhud and licked it up. The Prophet allowed him to do that and then said, “The [Hell] fire will not touch you.” …and “Abdullah ibn az Zubayr drank his cupped blood. The Prophet said, “Woe to you from the people and woe to the people from you.” But he did not object to what he had done.
Abu Saad Khodri who stated in a strong Hadith in Sharh Hayat al-Sahaba, regarding partaking in the blood of Mohammed:
When, at the battle of Uhud, the helmet-rings had been taken out of the Prophet’s cheek, blood flowed from the radiant face of that Lord of the pure, and my father Malik Ibn Sinan sucked the wounds with his mouth, swallowing the blood. When they said to my father, “Malik, is blood to be drunk?” my father replied, “Yes, the blood of the Prophet of God I drink like a beverage.” At that time his Excellency, the Prophet, said, “Whoever wishes to see one who has mixed my blood with his own, let him look at Malik Ibn Sinan: any one whose blood touches mine, him the fire of hell shall not desire.”
Is Al-Azar University also misrepresenting Islam when he decreed that it was permissible to eat the flesh of enemies of Islam, putting in Egyptian high school curriculum “that those who don’t pray can be grilled & then eaten”, when in fact one of the most reputable authorities of Sunni Islam, Shafie, declared that it was permissible to cannibalize? For Shafie wrote:
One may eat the flesh of a human body. It is not allowed to kill a Muslim nor a free non-Muslim under Muslim rule (because he is useful for the society), nor a prisoner because he belongs to other Muslims. But you may kill an enemy fighter or an adulterer and eat his body (716 in volume 1, Al-Kortoby)
Is Obama going to go on the air and proclaim Shafie as not representing Islam? It would never happen, for to do so would mean receiving the hatred of the whole Sunni world.
ISIS is true Islam, and to learn more, you can read Walid Shoebat’s article on this very issue, here.
Horseshit, President Golf.
You are so right with your comments and some of those same people think it’s so far away, it would never happen here. 9/11. These terror groups have always been a murdering fanatical regime for centuries. They need to be exposed for what they truly are and eliminated from this earth. If all nations, walked together with a big stick, we could clear this out. Why not put safety first..
Isn’t Golf considered “Haram” in Islam?
I’ll bet you would be aghast should Mitch McConnell go down this Fall.
Are we seeing a pattern here? :-)
I knew just how much trouble we were really in in 2008 when I saw how many people were so naive and willfully blind that they actually believed the garbage Obama spouted about all the wonderful things he would do while totally ignoring all the blatant warnings he gave about how he intended to wreck the economy along with the health care system. I was amazed at how people fell for Clinton and I am still amazed at how many think he ranks among our greatest presidents ever but I am far more amazed at how many believed Obama’s line of BS.
Weird, are just some kind of troll?
Just don’t make up fake quotes, what is so hard about that?
So now Obama thinks he’s the caliph, able to tell Islamists that they aren’t really Islamists.
I don’t make up the quotes.
The text refers to Arab and Pakistani Americans for example and as they are in the majority muslims, the statement which follows and I will stand with them (THE MUSLIMS) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction is simply a paraphrase which reduces the word-count and retains the intention. I see no need to accuse anyone of lying or dishonesty. It is what it is.
It is a fake quote, and Paladin2, it is your quote when you keep passing it on, and insisting that you will continue to claim that it is a quote.
Give it a rest. Bammy is a MB supporter based on both actions and rhetoric.
Your quote is not exact but it is accurate. Obama said he would stand with Arabs & Pakistanis should the wind shift in an ugly direction:
‘This is what he actually said: “. . . “Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: “I am your friend,” “[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization,” and “You embody the American dream.” They’re right, my message is simple, for what I’ve come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect. “Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” [Page 260-261] . . . “’
No, you give it a rest, quit trying to get freepers to take fake quotes out into the world and have their heads handed to them as losers and flakes.
Obama has all the pro-Muslim ammunition you need without you trying to fool freepers with that one fake quote.
Do you even care about the value of a quote?
Quote means something.
GOPe are having their heads literally handed to them. Gloves are off. Otherwise I head to the hinterlands to live out my life until the Feds get there too. As others have pointed out, the claim is 95% true.
As open as you are about being an old fashioned liar, you aren’t out in the world and the internet lying, you are lying to freerepublic and freepers.
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