Posted on 08/23/2014 10:28:08 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
#6. There's a Whole Industry Dedicated to Just Making Weed Pretty
#5. The "Safe, All-Natural Drug" Could Actually Be Full of Serious Toxins
#4. Weed Can Be Fairly Dangerous to Handle
#3. Even Where It's Legal, It's Not Legal
#2. The Legal Pot Industry Is Hurting the Environment
#1. The Growers Don't Want It to Be Legal
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Zactly.
scotch, cigarettes and women are my vice but, I’ve studied this issue fairly extensively and I’m confident that a legal product is better for society, tax revenue, reduces the damages to our environment, reduced violence and a whole host of other issues.
My questions to gubmint types
If alcohol and tobacco are regulated and their use never appreciably abated under prohibition, then why isn’t Marijuana treated similarly?
Ya, I know. And Bill Clinton didn’t inhale. Note the “...four times as much tar...” in the below.
There is ton of information the web.
For starters.
Tobacco vs. Marijuana
Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains cancer-causing chemicals. There are 33 cancer-causing chemicals contained in marijuana. Marijuana smoke also deposits tar into the lungs. In fact, when equal amounts of marijuana and tobacco are smoked, marijuana deposits four times as much tar into the lungs. This is because marijuana joints are un-filtered and often more deeply inhaled than cigarettes.
Marijuana smoke is also an irritant to the lungs, and frequent marijuana smokers can have many of the same respiratory problems experienced by people who smoke tobacco. These include coughing and phlegm production on most days, wheezing, bronchitis, and greater risk of lung infection.
http://www.lung.org/associations/states/colorado/tobacco/marijuana.html
I agree, the drug war is as stupid as prohibition was.
The only tax should be normal sales tax.
Drug sales should not become a windfall for the government.
If someone is stupid enough to buy drugs then the gov should not profit from that stupidity.
You just don’t get it do you? It isn’t totally legal for everyone to grow and sell, if it was nobody would be paying much for it.
There are about the same number of tomatoes harvested from one plant as there are ounces of pot on a pot plant.
Do you know anyone that would pay $200 for a tomato? At even $20 per tomato people would all start growing them.
Make pot totally legal and unregulated and an ounce would be worth less than $5.
It’s also legal to brew your own beer and wine, and doing so can save you a considerable amount of money (provided you make a decent batch, that is) — yet, most people buy the stuff from stores, ready-made. Brewing and growing are different, but do make a useful comparison. It’s easy to think of reasons to buy,rather than grow. For instance, people might not have the space, nor the horticultural inclinations to grow their own.
However, by the laws of supply and demand; as prices go up more people will grow their own, and vice versa.
Buy yourself a farm and get rich then, nothing to it.
And how many people use vaporizors? Not that many. And how many people pay attention to which part of the plant was used in the bag of the weed that you just purchased? Not that many.
After all, they are told not to worry by people like you so why even bother with a vaporizor or which part of the plant us used.
BTW, people who push the idea that it isn't bad for you are no better than the tobacco companies of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. It is ironic that you are using all of the same rationalizations used by the tobacco companies and the millions of people used it and suffered from cancer and other nasty diseases.
I am not against its use, just don't LIE about the risks.
Aside from those pesky facts, your argument prevails...
IMHO, when the supply starts to match demand, and the price settles down to it’s most profitable (to the government) price, that price will lie somewhere between what each of you is forecasting. Please see my post #66, for one reason I think this.
People will need land, or spare indoor space to grow their own — many people don’t have ready access to these essentials. People making lots of money will be more likely to buy than grow. The less money you have, the more likely you are to grow your own (and the less likely to have the land or space to do so). And so on. A market is able to crunch a limitless number of factors down into a single figure — the price. That price will be considerably higher than Beagle8U predicts; and considerably less than Ken H predicts.
You’re right — I just inferred that you were predicting a high price.
IMHO, the price will be what the government says it is, because most of the price will be taxes. That’s pretty much how it works for tobacco and most alcohol. Governments will consider several things, including:
* the effect on the black market;
* discouraging overuse; and
* maximizing profits (tax revenue).
The higher the taxes — the more competitive the black market becomes. The lower the taxes, the more likely people are to overuse. Maximizing tax revenue requires a balance between sales volume, and taxes per unit.
Agreed. As someone once said, 'The art of taxation is to pluck the most feathers with the least amount of hissing.'*
*If no one actually said that, someone should have!
make chewing tobacco illegal. Make coffee illegal. Make alcohol illegal. Make Pot illegal. Make sugar illegal. Make chocolate illegal. Be consistent on psychoactive substances or be a freakin hypocrite.
Bring it on idiot. Ban tobacco and see how that works out.
I nominate you to kick down doors and confiscate chewing tobacco. Your lifespan will be approximately 2 hours.
You stupid SWATzi’s make me want to puke.
Sure not a problem. I just need about 6 million dollars and a friend in the state legisature. Easy peasy lemon squeasy.
“Not sure where “liberty” comes into play when you can only obtain the pot from state sanctioned facilities.”
You have more liberty if the state doesn’t arrest you for it than if they do.
You know, it’s not as if you have to keep it in a prescription bottle like your Dilaudid. The police aren’t checking to see if you bought your pot at the pot store, or from the guy down the street who grows a few pounds a year—yet.
Yes but the irony is that the black market is even stronger now that it’s legal. Colorado has yet to realize the tax revenue they hoped for. Why? How does one know who’s smoking legal dope in public! It’s hilarious. The new retirement endeavor here in Wyoming is to grow pot and bootleg it to CO at half the cost! j/k But you can easily see how it’s a boondoggle for the cartels. Liberals are so stupid it hurts everyone in their path.
“The largest piece of the pie will be taxes...thus the gov gets the lions share.”
Only if a government monopoly that charges high prices beats a black market that beats the government on quality and/or price.
It is no longer just their business, we have socialized medicine now.
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