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To: The_Reader_David

Alcohol and drugs are mutually exclusive. We tried banning alcohol once, remember? People can drink without the goal of mind alteration (ie, getting drunk)

Just because one is harmful doesn’t justify adding another harm. Don’t we have enough cultural/behavioral problems without adding more? Legalization isn’t the answer, all it would do is create more dependencies and addictions and a host of political problems.

We did fine without dope in the 60s. Then came the 70s and all the associated problems. Ban it for good, get rid of it. It’s simply not worth the costs.


128 posted on 08/20/2014 12:37:00 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Michael Brown was the attacker . . . just like Thugvon. Second verse, same as the first)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Alcohol and drugs are mutually exclusive.

Only by the artificial construct of legality. Pharmacologically, alcohol qualifies by every objective measure as a psychoactive drug.

131 posted on 08/20/2014 12:46:00 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: A_Former_Democrat
We tried banning alcohol once, remember?

Yes - remember how it failed in pretty much the same ways that pot criminalization is failing?

People can drink without the goal of mind alteration

When that drug was illegal, people drank almost exclusively with the goal of mind alteration.

133 posted on 08/20/2014 12:48:20 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Did you read my post? Yes, we tried banning alcohol once, and it created the same problems that banning other psychoactive substances has: deaths due to impurities in the alcohol supply because it was being produced by unregulated criminals, rather than legitimate businesses regulated for product safety; the trade going into the hands of increasingly ruthless criminal gangs as the level of enforcement increased; eroding respect for the rule of law by making criminals of otherwise law-abiding citizens who frequented illegal establishments to get their drinks.

We were “without dope” in the 60’s? Which 60’s was that the 1660’s?

We’ve been trying “bann[ing] it for good”, and when the “ban” by Federal fiat didn’t work, we’ve shredded the Constitution to chase dealers with no-knock warrants, “criminal forfeiture” laws that seize even innocent people’s property without benefit of due process if its “associated with drugs”, made drug crimes into scarlet letters that prevent people from taking out student loans, instituted urine tests to toss even casual users out of jobs,...

“Ban if for good, get rid of it,” is the same sort of policy prescription the left usually makes: an idea that sounds good but depends on changing human nature or the laws of economics to have any chance of success.


163 posted on 08/20/2014 1:34:00 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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