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To: dragnet2
Remember, they already know which of the rounds were fatal,...

OK, which ones? 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th?

Get the angle of entry, and it'll point to where the weapon was fired from...

Only if you know exactly how his body was positioned at the precise moment of entry. Was he facing east, west, north or south? Was he standing straight up, slouching, bending over, prone? Was his arm extended, up, down, out to the side, forward? ... in order to know where the bullet came from you have to have exact body/body part position or the angle of entry only tells you the angle of entry.

You keep saying that cones were used to mark the casings. What is your source for that?

You really are a hoot!

740 posted on 08/20/2014 9:04:02 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: TigersEye
You keep saying that cones were used to mark the casings. What is your source for that?

You really are a hoot!

Thanks, I try to be the best hoot possible...

By the way did you see any traditional evidence markers like these below tiger?

I just assumed the traffic cones were used for evidence markers since no standard markers were seen to mark such items like bullet casings and other evidence.

This is all just a wild guess though.

Do you think those cones might have been for traffic control tiger?

745 posted on 08/20/2014 9:41:27 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TigersEye
OK, which ones? 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th?

I have no idea what the numbered sequence was. Do you? BTW, this is what investigations are for...Statements and stuff like physical evidence will help determine most all that tiger...

746 posted on 08/20/2014 9:45:09 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TigersEye

I heard it was the one that hit him in head...#6???


747 posted on 08/20/2014 9:54:18 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: TigersEye

Um, actually that’s all clearly understood by investigators. Police forensics know the answer to those; insofar as they may not, they’ve got a good handle on probabilities.

The four in the arm weren’t fatal if treated properly in a sensible time. Unless a major artery was severed (a fact examiners know either way), blood loss was manageable and the injury repairable.

The one in the eye socket could have been fatal, or (depending on terminal ballistic trajectory) survivable or not immediately incapacitating (lethal some time later).

The one in the top of skull was a brain shot. That’s usually instantly incapacitating/lethal. If it had occurred before any other shot, he’d have dropped before that other shot. (I’ve seen how animals drop after a brain shot: like dropping a ball or turning off a light.)

Direction? we know about where the cop was, and about where Brown was. Knowing that and the position of entry wounds, we can determine with good certainty which way his body was positioned (E/W/N/S, standing, slouching, bending over, prone, arm position, etc). Every theory of Brown’s position would have to match up with the physical reality of one shooter firing from a very limited range of positions in a very short timeframe (say, if Brown was lying face down when shot, there’s no way he could have front entry wounds).

Yes, examiners do have locations & angles of entry. In addition, they can establish that at least one shot entered the arm, exited, then entered the torso - establishing exactly how his arm was positioned for that shot, and in turn the positioning of most of his body at that point _and_ the location of the shooter. Once those are established, and knowing the timeframe (from witnesses), we can limit the range of possible positions involved in other shots, as there was little time & reason to move in complex/contortionist ways.

Crime scene examiners aren’t idiots. They have objective facts, and a long history/science/study of sensibly interpreting what those facts objectively mean.

As for cones marking casings, that’s common. Do you have anything indicating they weren’t used?

You’re a hoot.


785 posted on 08/21/2014 7:13:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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