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To: C. Edmund Wright
...As police forces become more militaristic...

I’m not sure Malkin, Limbaugh, Ingraham, get this yet.

Maybe there is something you don't get.

Rush brought this up today. He believes LE attitudes changed after the Hollywood bank holdup and shooting rampage years ago. Remember the perps were practically in full combat gear, body armour, AK-47's?

LAPD had to respond wearing officer-friendly uniforms and street duds armed with pea-shooters and shot guns. They had to finally go to a gun store and comandeer the heavy-hitting stuff from their stock.

It is easy to sit safe and sound behind your keyboard.

Put yourself out there. What would you want at your disposal to deal with these kind of situations?

105 posted on 08/15/2014 5:31:18 PM PDT by QT3.14 (USA born 7.4.1776 fathered by geniuses - died 11.4.2008 (Suicide) by idiots and traitors)
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To: QT3.14

Ok snotty, I’ll return fire. Remember YOU started it:

You are obviously a LEO of some sort, probably a union one, and hiding your attitudes behind the blue wall. Fine. You’re nailed. And you missed my point anyway.

Now to that point: I am well aware of all you say. That doesn’t change the fact that the former “law and order conservative” belief in always giving the cops the benefit of the doubt has eroded significantly. I was raised to inherently respect cops. I have raised my kids differently. What changed? It wasn’t me. It is the attitude of LEOs.

It quite often seems like the only people they “protect and serve” are each other, and their pensions. Am I generalizing? Yes, but that’s okay, since I have said I am generalizing.


106 posted on 08/15/2014 6:23:15 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: QT3.14
Remember the perps were practically in full combat gear, body armour, AK-47's?

Actually, the perps were wearing more than full combat gear. When they were finally brought down, it was a shot to the ankle that found a gap in the armor. Those guys had vests wrapped around their legs, padded, etc.

The police had handguns against that, and need something with more penetration and precision.

Simply put, though, those were city police, and a more rural Sheriff's deputy would likely have had the firepower to end that more quickly. One good shooter with a scoped rifle and a little standoff capability would have been able to make short work of that situation.

125 posted on 08/16/2014 3:44:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: QT3.14
Put yourself out there. What would you want at your disposal to deal with these kind of situations?


If you going to armed there is no point in carrying something that won't do the job. That doesn't explain why the “city of podunk” police need to use the stuff in routine situations. At some point it gets to be swatting flies with a sledge hammer and we are all potential flies.
138 posted on 08/16/2014 8:12:48 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: QT3.14

Begs the questions:

So if some nutcake steals a combat tank from the local National Guard armory, should all the police agencies be provided tanks just in case?

??

If some nutcase creates a rocket launcher in his garage, or makes homemade grenades, should we give all the cop agencies bazookas and missile launchers just in case?

BTW in the North Hollywood bank robbery, the only two who were killed were the two bad guys...No cops were killed.


166 posted on 08/16/2014 4:59:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: QT3.14

“Put yourself out there. What would you want at your disposal to deal with these kind of situations? “

I think cops having an AR-15 is completely acceptable, but the tactics of SWAT teams on tens of thousands of raids every year, the MRAPS, the heavy weapons, etc., are all over the top and not needed. Let’s not forget they locked down the entire major metropolitan city of Boston to look for two punks.


174 posted on 08/16/2014 8:24:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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