Looks That Kill (Ditch the stormtroopers, bring back the Peelers.)

National Review ^ | 8/14/14 | Kevin Williamson

[Valpal1]

People in places such as Ferguson, Mo., often talk about the police as though they were an occupying force, and there is, in Ferguson and in many other places, a strong racial component. During my time in Philadelphia, the city had a black mayor, a black police commissioner, and a heavily black police force, and the city’s worst crime was concentrated in two black neighborhoods. Police innovations such as sending extra patrols to schools at dismissal time were criticized by community leaders who complained that the police were “targeting” black neighborhoods. Which, of course, they were: That’s where the crime was. The police were of course in an impossible position: On the one hand, they were regarded as unwelcome intruders; on the other, they could not simply abandon those neighborhoods.

But they might seem a little bit less like an occupying force if they didn’t dress like one. If they weren’t armed like one. If they didn’t roll through like one. If they weren’t being told, and telling themselves, that they are “at war.”

[Valpal1]

To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.

To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.

To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.

To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.

To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.

To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.

To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.

To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.

[CharlesOConnell]

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Lt. Col. Dave Grossman studied the act of killing in war, comparable to formerly taboo sexological studies. Results: In wars prior to Viet Nam, in all recorded history, only 15% of front line soldiers used lethal force, 85% shot over the enemy's head, just postured and blustered to scare the enemy into retreating. Between Korea and Viet Nam, soldiers were deliberately desensitized away from the deep taboo against killing, resulting in 95% lethal force rates in that war. Returning soliders were reviled rather than brought back into their communities in traditional purification rituals—medals awards ceremonies. Finally, our urban young people have been desensitized away from the taboo against killing by Grand Theft Auto—induced sociopathy.

A survey of African-American young men shows that only 22% regard racism as a significant limitation on their life's success prospects.

(Don't believe it? How many African-Americans are present in mainstream commercial advertising? Is racism hurting the bottom line?)

But LBJ's Great Society robbed their people of their initiative and tore their fathers, teachers of manhood, away from their families.

 

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Between Rodney King's Can't We All Just Get Along? and Nicole Brown Simpson's The Bitch Got Hers, the worst injury possible against a people has been perpetrated—its leadership have convinced them to give up their fundamental sense of right and wrong.

[RightOnTheBorder]

The Peelers couldn’t stand up to a riotous mob and would be forced to retreat. If the Peelers are forced to retreat the State can no longer maintain the illusion that they are capable of or intend to protect the public. If the public realized the scam they will start to defend themselves (see Detroit) and then two things will happen that the State cannot permit. One, crime will go down and two, people will start to question what right the state has to ruin someone’s life with the legal system when he is forced to defend himself. The state will not give up it’s protection racket or its legal scam so you will continue to see the jack boots.

[Vince Ferrer]

Rodney King was beaten by the police in 1991. He was surrounded, and beaten with night sticks and tasered every time he disobeyed an order to stay on the ground. This incident caused a trial for the police officers on charges of police brutality.

If that incident happened today, there would be no possibility that Rodney King would have survived. He would have been shot multiple times, and there would not have been any trial of the officers.

[familyop]

There’s been so much talk about the “War on Terror” and hypothetical police responses that has led to the wearing of dramatic equipment for emulating soldiers. But onsider what would happen, if guerrillas like those of ISIS attacked a suburb like Ferguson. The realistic police response would be to run and hide. National Guard infantry would take care of the problem.

[Falcon4.0]

If Police insist on keeping this type of power, they should be required to wear Google type recording type glasses.
The recording situation should be defined into 3 classes of threat.
"Defcon-3" Normal Patrol. Data stored for 72 hours.
"Defcon-2" Investigation, (i.e.) normal traffic stop . Data stored for 30 days or until Court resolution of case.
'Defcon-1" Officer draws a weapon. Data to be stored indefinately.

[GladesGuru]

Sir Robert Peel dealt with Englishmen. Unarmed Bobby’s could work there because England was a culturally monolithic society.

America now has to deal with black and Latrino underclasses whose overt racial hatred of whites is made clear and unambiguous every day, all across America.

Whenever America decides to stop supporting the Black and Latrino Urban Ferals, they will become either productive or dead. Americans have retrieved their Second Amendment rights and the armed American citizen can deal with violent criminals better, faster, and at vastly less expense than can the police, be they armed police, militarized police, whatever.

Using the case of the Missouri riots, had the shop keepers been armed with pistols and shotguns or rifles behind the counter, rioter would find something else to do.

Were the Bounty to be reinstated, the riotous could become a resource to be harvested. Yes - rioters can be transformed into a resource to the community. A violent criminal, once killed for being a clear and present danger to life and property, becomes a resource to the citizen whom the criminal forced into killing him.

Along with protecting life, liberty, and property, the bounty rewards the law abiding citizen for removing a dangerous social predator. The Bounty rewards the armed citizen and for solving the risk created by the criminal at a greatly lower cost than trials, incarceration, parole, ad nauseam.

Bounties worked before, and will again work if America tires of the dangers posed by criminals and the costs and growing dangers of a police state sized police force.

America need to reinstate the Bounty.

[Sequoyah101]

Wasn’t in in Philly where they burned a whole block after dropping ‘bombs” from a helicopter?

[bamahead]

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[Valpal1]

Using the case of the Missouri riots, had the shop keepers been armed with pistols and shotguns or rifles behind the counter, rioter would find something else to do.

Actually, the shop keepers that chose to exercise their right to self defense didn't get looted in Missouri, there are pictures of them standing armed outside their intact businesses.

Which leads me to conclude that if the riot police had focused on property protection rather than on people control, there would not have been any looting at all.

Had they placed a heavily armed officer or two in front of each business, the looters would have just whistled on by while the sincere protesters kept on protesting.

[Valpal1]

Police Or Army: Who Wore It Better?

[Carry_Okie]

In wars prior to Viet Nam, in all recorded history, only 15% of front line soldiers used lethal force, 85% shot over the enemy's head, just postured and blustered to scare the enemy into retreating.

Somehow, I don't think this represents WWII or Korea very accurately.

[Kenny Bunk]

I worked happily in Philly when Frank Rizzo was the CoP.

They loved that guy in the 'hood because he kept order and good African-Americans citizens could get on with their lives largely free of the deleterious effects of "ghetto culture."

Black Mayor? Black Police Chief? Black School Superintendent? = Black Bullshiite. Kiss any town where that happens good-bye.

The record says you'll have inept and corrupt government, high crime, and failing schools. Look it up.

[kvanbrunt2]

it was a black helicopter and the police don’t have bomb’s. the fed’s did it. Philly didn’t even own a helicopter at the time.

[kvanbrunt2]

more donuts on the left

[Kenny Bunk]

Vince, FYI, Rodney didn't survive. DOA: Overdose.

You (a) never saw the whole video
(b) the cops were found innocent
(c)George HW Bush pandered and brought them up on federal charges AFTER they were acquitted. Even the ACLU thought it was screwy (but of course did not help them.)
(d)Review the case. The guy who went to prison saved Rodney King's life by ordering the cops NOT to shoot him.
(e) Rodney was high on PCP, but that evidence was not allowed in
(f)The federal jury was intimidated.

Rodney King? Pick another example. Your grandmother would have shot that SOB without a second thought. I would have loaded and spotted for her, too.

[DarkSavant]

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that was debunked. I still hear it often though.

[kvanbrunt2]

The record says you’ll have inept and corrupt government, high crime, and failing schools. Look it up.

you are correct that is what we have in philly today

[Future Snake Eater]

that has led to the wearing of dramatic equipment for emulating soldiers

What's interesting is that

1) the vast majority of those guys would shit their pants in a real gunfight

2) if they acted in Iraq the way that they do in regular ol' USA, they'd have likely been brought up on UCMJ charges

I've never been a cop, but my experience in Iraq on the front lines has dropped my respect for them through the floor. It's not an easy job, and most of these guys probably are just not cut out for it, yet they get infinite protection from higher regardless of what they do or why. Pathetic, scared children with badges is all I see.

[Insigne123]

Mr Future Snake Eater, you should start eating snakes now & talk a little less; you learned nothing