Posted on 08/11/2014 8:32:33 PM PDT by grundle
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A hostage kidnapped during a Northern California bank robbery was killed by police in an ensuing chase and shootout, likely during a final gunbattle where the lone surviving suspect used her as a human shield, authorities said Monday.
The results of a preliminary ballistics report show that police in the city of Stockton fired the 10 bullets that struck Misty Holt-Singh, 41, and all her wounds likely came during a final burst of gunfire, Stockton Police Chief Eric Jones said at a news conference.
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” Some problems do not have happy
solutions.”
Especially when cops don’t even try.
” These gangbangers had a ball on
their way out and they got just what the
Mexican consulate wanted..a bunch of
hate-the-cops apologists.”
You want to praise cops for pumping rounds through you? Be my guest. They didn’t even try to save her. But time and again, cops prove they are anything but heros protecting the innocent.
At the very least, they should have restrained their rate of fire. Ya, that would have put them at greater risk. They are paid to take risks.
I never said it was an act of war. You are making presumptions and indicating something was said...that never was...and then answering that straw man. I will let other readers determine who is acting in a manner similar to liberals orbthenObsma administration.
You attempt to discredit my argument with such deflections however...well, it speaks for itself.
I said that blaming these officers for what happened to this poor woman was “like” blaming Israel. Not that the acts of these robbers were acts of war.
But what they most certainly were, were violent deadly acts that put the general public in danger and that the police responded to those acts...and one of the criminals, in the firefight that ensued covered himself with the poor woman.
He and the other criminals are responsible for her death.
Yes.
Police were distinctly less confrontational in most situations. If you didn't actually fight with them, they would let a lot of things slide by without an arrest.
It wasn't an age of purity. There were bad cops then, just as there are now. There were bad criminals too. Lines were rather more clearly drawn than today.
A violent armed robbery with a dead hostage would have most likely ended with summary execution of the surviving perpetrator. And nobody would have said anything about it either.
They shot one and through her out. They threw another out while moving and engaged in a gunfight with police.
No regard for their life was shown.
They most likely thought they were dead.
It is much more likely that they would have killed the third and then gone on to commit more murderous crime.
They will not do that now...and, tragically the 3rd woman was killed. All of that is on these three murderous gang members.
I wish them lots of luck in that.
When minutes count for a hostage, the police are seconds away from filling the hostage with lead.
Killing hostages is of no moment so long as you get the perp. Human life itself is simply not a consideration of police now, except their own.
and get their deserved recreation. That is what shooting perps, dogs, children, hostages, Citizens, whatever, has become.
It has already cost many people dearly.
Shooting out the tires doesn’t necessarily stop a car, or even slow it down a hell of a lot. I followed a car that was driving erratically here at 5 AM as he was trying to get away from me because he knew I was following him. I recognized as having disappeared from the yard of a friend. That was back in the day when illegals faced jail and deportation if caught. He turned out to be one. He lost air in a rear tire and just kept going. The tire came off the rim and the right front tire blew. He drove that one off the rim, too. Speeds were pretty high for a city street and the bare rims made a helluva racket. He was driving 50 or so with two naked rims. I got stuck behind a truck for a moment and he got away from me. I located the car behind a shopping center and found a phone and called police. The fellow was eventually arrested with a houseful of others. I don’t know what happened to him after.
And there you have it, the most perceptive observation on the thread.
I remember that time as well, I just don’t recall the summary executions that you seem to recall so confidently.
And my point was that the responsibility of police to their fellow citizens are far different than the responsibility of the military to the citizens of a state that committed acts of war against their country.
You also seem to have missed the concept of 10 bullets hitting the hostage. Yes hostages can be and are killed. But for the police to hit the hostage with 10 bullets is outrageous.
” You also seem to have missed the
concept of 10 bullets hitting the hostage.
Yes hostages can be and are killed. But
for the police to hit the hostage with 10
bullets is outrageous.”
Dead correct. The streets of the US are not Iraq. Stop pretending they are. These are OUR citizens.
As for ten bullets? That is clear proof they weren’t even trying to save her life. All they cared about was themselves.
Training aids for and from those who can't even spell "depict"
The cops are providing that for themselves without any efforts from the Mexican consulate....
Your response to me was written with a presumption that was incorrect, and a clear bias. Clearly stated against what I had said.
I am fully aware of the difffences between LEO activities and soldiers in war.
Yes, the woman was, tragically hit ten times. Did not miss that in the least...another presumption on your part. There was a heavy and sustained gun fight at the end of this...with criminals using semi-auto rifles. One of the cowardly bastards covered himself with this poor woman.
It is tragic...but the fault lies squarely with these three heavily armed, murderous criminals...not the police.
I am ready and willing o call out LEO atrocities when thy occur...and have one so on these boards over the last 17 years.
This is not one of ose occasions.
Bravo Sierra.
Read the whole story. And if you did, then you know these three perps, who had shot one hostage and threw her from their fleeing car, and then pushed a second out while traveling and shooting at police, were the ones who caused this.
When cornered, the heavily armed bastards directed a hail of gunfire at police officers. One of the cowardly bastards forced the last hostage on top of him in that horrible exchange and she was killed.
The police at that point had to protect the public at large from murderous criminals who were willing to put down very heavy fire, including isemi-automatic rifle fire, that was endangering many more people at that point.
It was indeed a tragedy...but not one of the police making or their fault.
I’ve said my piece on this...readers and lurker s can draw their own conclusions.
You might recall Charles Whitman, Austin, Texas, 1966 as an example of a summary execution.
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