LOL, here! On Free Republic! In pages-long, rolling battles, complete with the Religion Mod eventually wading in and separating both sides to their corners, and then a repeat every six months or so!
OK, so I searched for -- Talisker Albigensians -- (which gets, BTW, 702 results on Google, but most of it is whisky: how the Albis got in there is a puzzle) and finally read through about 20 minutes' worth of exchanges narrowed down to Talkisker on FR. That was only a slice of a much bigger dialogue, I know. But what I read, was back-and-forth between you and dangus and various others (I pinged dangus because of the courtesy-ping rule) where
I am not going to risk my eyesight or my default position of good will (towards you, too, Talisker) by reading more pages of this stuff. It unscrolls wearyingly through many different threads starting out with Biblical canon, Innocent III, Lutheranism, Dominic, Tyndale, Frenchmen, friars, and ending up, always, with the atrocity at Beziers.
My impression is that saying "Albigensians" is one way of playing the Hitler card.
I repeat, that was only a slice of a much bigger dialogue, I know. But the pattern was, somebody objects to the anti-sex, or antinomian, or anarchist doctrines of the Albis, and you intepret this as support for genocide.
If that's the case --- and as I said (3x) I realize I'm dealing with fragments here --- then it's not fair. Objecting to some group's doctrines, whether they be anti-sex or anti-king or anti-Christ Our Lord, is not the same as justifying decades of slaughter.
If I missed the part where some FReeper Catholic said the indiscriminate targeting of a civilian population is OK, please get back to me with the link/quote. I will promptly go over and do some remedial catechism on them, good and hard.
Thank you.
P.S. You might be intrigued to know that on the day Pope Innocent III died at Rome, he appeared, in flames, to the Abbess St. Lutgarda in her monastery in Belgium. He said he had committed crimes which had merited his being in purgatory until the end of time, unless the copious prayers of merciful Christians served to appease the justice of God and mitigate his sentence.
He may still be sizzling, for all we know. It'd take a po'ful heap of prayers to get a reduced sentence on a verdict like that, I reckon. (It wasn't hell, though. Hell continues for eternity, after the end of time.) So that may show why, in the eyes of the Church, Lutgarda is regarded as a canonized saint, and Innocent is... ahem... not.