but the second ones never going to happen.
Oh by the way, liberals said we would never defeat the Soviet Union. They tried their damnest to make it so and never forgave President Reagan when it happened.
As long as 51% of the voters in the country are fools who vote for whatever party promises them the most plunder looted from the pockets of the hard working then we're not going to get rid of wealth transfer. I personally don't see why I should pay for other peoples' housing, food, health care, edjumaction of their chillins, etc., but I do.