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To: redgolum
Simple fact is that the law has two purposes. Promote good order (morals) and raise revenue for the State.

No doubt the Ayatollah's in Iran believe the same thing. I am sure Katheline Sebelius believes she is promoting a "good" by promoting abortion. Is is society's purpose to promote good morals. Society is bigger than government. It is big government, in many different ways, that is presently promoting immorality.

33 posted on 08/07/2014 9:01:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88; redgolum; trisham; Morgana; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; ..
No doubt the Ayatollah's in Iran believe the same thing.

Libertarians NEVER FAIL to eventually compare conservatives to the Taliban or something similar.

Is is society's purpose to promote good morals.

There is a difference between promotion and protection.

The Founding Father's realized this:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,

Then the Founding Fathers secured it with this:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Like many libertarians you seem to be heading in the direction of anarchy with no government at all. Libertarians have this Utopian mindset that if there were no government everything would be perfect, it's actually quite similar to what Marx believed.

46 posted on 08/07/2014 9:16:13 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: PGR88

Sir, you are correct.

The laws reflect the society. We hold that killing a person is illegal. That is a reflection of morals. So, since the state is legislating morality, should we legalize murder?


48 posted on 08/07/2014 9:17:35 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: PGR88
“…the principles of all genuine liberty, and of wise laws and administrations are to be drawn from the Bible and sustained by its authority. The man therefore who weakens or destroys the divine authority of that book may be accessory to all the public disorders which society is doomed to suffer…” Noah Webster


52 posted on 08/07/2014 9:20:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: PGR88
Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. -
George Washington


56 posted on 08/07/2014 9:22:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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