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To: Beagle8U; PGR88

” ” Debt, fiat money and activist
progressive government are the causes
of harmful changes to society and to how
people behave. Fix those first and the
social problems will fix themselves”

You can’t fix those things until you deal
with the social problems.”

Dead correct. Drug, abortion, all of it existed long before out of control government.
Human failings don’t go away because they are ignored.

Problems in society are like problems for an individual. Problems are usually the just fruit of immoral behavior.
That isn’t a theological viewpoint. It is what I see every day in peoples lives. A woman doesn’t control her sex life, by default she ends up with children from unwise relationships. By default, the consiquences also follow the guy.


32 posted on 08/07/2014 9:00:14 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan
Dead correct. Drug, abortion, all of it existed long before out of control government. Human failings don’t go away because they are ignored.

Dead Wrong. Yes, drug use and abortion all existed since the beginning of time, as has thievery, adultery, lying and cheating. But SOCIETY stigmatized, made illegal and/or shunned people who engaged in them. Libertarians believe society MUST BE bigger than government. You are giving us the statist proposition - that government must control society.

It is progressive government (and I would say our fiat money system) that has caused 1000 insidious changes to society, such that now things like abortion and gay marriage are everywhere - even though few people ever voted to have them.

39 posted on 08/07/2014 9:06:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: LevinFan

A moral-less libtardian view that everyone can just do what they want leads to people that get drunk/stoned a lay around making more leeches for taxpayers to support.

Every single person I’ve ever known that worked their way up from the bottom to become a success was a social conservative. Every single one.


47 posted on 08/07/2014 9:17:28 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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