[LevinFan]

“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others.”

But you gloss over that part. EQUAL RIGHTS OF OTHERS.

I have a basic right to travel the street without having to be under the constant threat of “Responsible DUI”. I’m not going to wait for him to harm me, mine, or an innocent party.

Yet I’ve seen people argue that society shouldn’t stop them until they actually harm someone. One even argued for speeding through school zones, and not stopped until he actually hits a kid.
Bull! If someone is waving a gun around at me and mine, I can not be expected to wait until actual harm is caused before stopping it. Same with drunks. I have not one reason to wait until he harms my kid, before stopping him.

The moment your activity becomes are realistic threat to the freedom of others, is the moment your activity will get controlled. Want what you want, but that is the way it will be.

And responsible drug use, including alcohol, is an oxymoron. It is a substance designed to remove the ability to be responsible.

“Your freedom to wave your fist ends at the beginning of my nose.”
You understand what it means. And it is a fundamental truth of a civil society.

[bamahead]

“Your freedom to wave your fist ends at the beginning of my nose.”

If I one is cognizant enough or responsible enough to do these things without hitting your nose - or even coming within your vicinity - who exactly is harmed?

[bamahead]

Or does it boil down to that you simply have a problem with the way some choose to 'wave their fists' vs. others?

I like to go out in the woods and 'wave my fists' by bagging a nice 10-pointer, for what it's worth. However - PETA considers that well beyond the bridges of their noses.

By your logic - my waving of fists should be outlawed, simply because PETA's nose might incur a brushing.

Any power you give the state to enforce morals will be retained even when those not of your morals are in charge. This is the part that most SoCons seem to 'gloss over' when being overly self-righteous with the power of law.