Nice! That really does say it all, right there. It breaks my heart to see so many (R)'s needing nanny to hold their hands. Portends of doom for the (once) "Grand Old Party".
Even Hayek recognized & appreciated social order and attributed social order and the institutions perpetuating it as the results of what works from among all things voiced in the free market place of ideas.
I see Libertarians as those who at some level seek government imposed social anarchy that places a boot upon the neck of upon social order and that is where Libertarians & Leftists share some common ground and where the problem lies between Conservatives & Libertarians.
The Left promotes disorder that they may then impose a new order and Libertarians assist passively at best in this transformation leading to government imposed social tyranny.
Case in point - post #198. Statist AND closed minded. A dangerous combination to liberty.