[bamahead]

if men cannot control themselves then the law will.

You are simply promoting the same form of statism as your leftist counterparts. Just a different flavor. Let's apply your 'men cannot control themselves' statement to a few leftist arguements:

Men cannot morally control themselves sexually, therefore birth control should be free to men and women...we must make a law to enforce this.

Men cannot control themselves aggressively, therefore it should be illegal for all men to own weapons...we must make laws to enforce this.

Men cannot be trusted with excessive amounts of money...we must set limits on income.

Your sword has a double edge. Look at the 'moral' War on Drugs and the erosion of liberty that travesty has caused. Yet you would continue it? History has proven that practically ANY power you entrust to the state WILL be used against you at some point. Yet you argue for more state control over 'morals'?

You may not agree with the libertarian position on much, but you can't sit there and claim to love liberty while advocating a trade of one form of statism for another.

[DJ MacWoW]

I am not interested in anything you have to say. Don't bother posting to me.