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Poland Retains Su-22s, Wants New Attack Helicopters
AIN online ^ | August 6, 2014 | FRANEK GRABOWSKI and CHRIS POCOCK

Posted on 08/07/2014 6:44:08 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Faced with a worsening security situation in neighboring Ukraine, Poland has issued a requirement for new attack helicopters that could be worth more than $1.3 billion. Meanwhile, however, the country’s choice of 72 new multirole helicopters worth nearly $2.7 billion is still undecided. Budget problems continue to frustrate the armed forces’ desire for new equipment. Earlier this year, Poland decided to retain one squadron of aging Su-22 strike aircraft for up to 10 more years, since it cannot afford a replacement.

Poland currently operates 28 Mil Mi-24 attack helicopters, the remnants of 52 acquired since 1978. The new proposal is to buy about 32 replacements in two stages, with an initial 20 to be followed by 12 more beginning in 2022. Candidates include the AgustaWestland AW129 or its Turkish sibling, the TAI T-129; the Airbus Helicopters EC665 Tiger; and the Boeing AH-64E Apache. Offers are due to be considered next year.

Meanwhile, the multirole helicopter contract award has been postponed until next year, two years later than originally envisioned. The AgustaWestland AW149, Airbus Helicopters EC725 Caracel, and Sikorsky S-70i Black Hawk are in contention, each OEM having partnered with a local company for production and support (PZL-Swidnik, Heli-Invest and Mielec, respectively). The army is due to receive 48 helicopters for troop transport, with the air force receiving 10 for SAR, and the navy receiving another six for SAR plus six for the ASW role. They will replace about 16 Mi-8s, 10 Mi-14s and 20 Mi-17s that remain in service from much larger numbers acquired previously.

The decision to retain 12 single-seat and six two-seat Su-22Ms for another 10 years was taken last February and was driven by the choice of the Aermacchi M346 as the air force’s new jet trainer. Had the rival more powerful KAI T-50 Golden Eagle been selected, some would have been allocated as the Su-22 replacement. The air force received 110 Su-22s beginning in 1984; 32 remain in service. They have received only minor avionics upgrades.

The Lockheed Martin F-16C/D Block 52 is Poland’s frontline fighter, with 48 delivered between 2006 and 2008. In a presentation to The Fighter Conference in London in 2012, organized by Defence IQ, air force Col. Tadeusz Pieciukiewicz said that Poland hoped to share the development cost of future upgrades, such as an AESA radar, with the U.S. Air Force. However, the U.S. F-16 upgrade program faces an uncertain future. The air force also operates two squadrons of MiG-29s.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; poland; su22
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To: Rashputin

Ouch...that’s going to leave a mark.


21 posted on 08/07/2014 1:04:46 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Rashputin
Where did I name Poland?

I didn't. You did.

My comment was based upon the conduct of US foreign policy from the end of WWII through 1990. I remember the lengths the US was willing to go - the tens of thousands of US killed and wounded and treasure spent - during that period defending nations from Russian encroachment if you don't.

Have a day.

22 posted on 08/07/2014 1:07:54 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: mac_truck

Right - a skid mark.


23 posted on 08/07/2014 1:08:17 PM PDT by skeeter
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24 posted on 08/07/2014 1:08:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: skeeter
Do forgive me, I thought your post related to the subject of the article, Poland, rather than to the general state of affairs within the United States.

I stand corrected.

25 posted on 08/07/2014 1:28:07 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
I'll try one more time.

It is my opinion that Poland - today's free Poland (not Poland behind the iron curtain, not Poland prior to WWII, not Poland during the first, second or third Mongol invasions) under US cold war foreign policy from 45 through 90, would have been staunchly supported. As we supported other nations with arms, aid and in some cases, US bodies all around the world.

No where did I write what you seem to have read - that the US has always provided Poland, specifically, with the means to defend itself.

26 posted on 08/07/2014 1:41:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Ah, the bigger picture, "would have been", and so on.

Gordon at Khartoum would have been staunchly supported between '45 and '90, too. Unfortunately he was trapped by the Mahdi somewhat too early I'm afraid. I see your point, "there was a time".

Like "Britain rules the waves", "Blood and Iron", that sort of thing. All just a historical accident that when they need help it's a bit early or late. Shame, but there's nothing for it, as they say.

Thank you so much.

27 posted on 08/07/2014 2:06:09 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Argumentative + obtuse = waste of my time


28 posted on 08/07/2014 2:07:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Rashputin

Lolz...well done!


29 posted on 08/07/2014 2:52:45 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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